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Valer
Anyone noticed how stupidly strong this is now rets can use Hammer of Wrath on people at 100% hp.
I've been quite impressed with how well blizzard have been balancing pvp. This paladin change is totally over powered though and rets are back to jump running around spamming instants and everything round them drops...
Post by
tuckmuck203
Really? When do they get this talent?
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Post by
apocalypsa
Yeah but when rets dont have wings up...
Just stay here for 9+ seconds while I wait for my TV to become available kk?
PvP atm isnt balanced, deal with it and stop making qq posts.
The FEW changes they made to address balance issues in the hotfix have apperently already &*!@ed up lvl 85 stuff, so they wont change anything until we are all nicely decked out in cata epix.
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apocalypsa
Thats nice because palas get wings at 72 now.
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apocalypsa
Hence the "now".
And really, stop making topics about it. PvP is balanced for 85 and thats it.
Post by
DarkOpeth
Yeah from what I've noticed, Paladins are crazy strong this patch, not just in damage but even how damn long they take to kill, If i can do it at all. All 3 specs too. But yeah apocalypsa is right, like with any spell and talent design, it is built and designed around max level available, that being 85 at the current moment.
But enough complaining from me, as a 2h frost DK, I three or four shot people
in
PvP gear, and I'm loving every minute of it, just the damn pallies giving me problems.
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Post by
Hurono
I'm glad ret burst is back a little bit.
And for the whiners, If I were to whine every time I get one shotted by a shaman or watch a warlock fear me and then dot me up so hard all I can do is watch my own painful death, I would have carpal tunnel by now.
L2 dispell Warlock dots, if you're getting one shotted by Shamans get out of PvE gear from level 76.
Every class has it's ups and downs, and I for one am glad paladins got a power up. They used to be the fear of any pvp'er and then they got ground into dust.
Yup, they were so bad they took 4 buttons to hit as any spec. :O
HoW is on a 6 sec CD, that means even if you are ambushed, you only have to lock him down or kill him for 14 sec. if you can't kill another player in 14 seconds than either you stink or he is really good.
Or trinket any CC you use then bubble.
Not trying to be harsh but it just seems like any other class= they must be a good player but when it comes to paladins OMFGNERFQQ!
Well, when Holy Paladins are getting 6k DPS outside of 30% buffs...
On another note, I lasted about 5 min in my PvE holy gear against a PvP paladin, I couldn't kill him of course, but neither could he kill me. Seems like a pretty balanced change to me.
Lemme guess, here's how the duel lasted until he successfully interrupted you, used cooldowns, CC'd you, and crit you:
Holy Shock
Word of Glory
Holy Shock
Word of Glory
Repeat a couple hundred times
Oh, and if you check a few pages back on the Paladin forums (Shoot even some up now) on Wowhead OR the official forums, Pallies were crying a river about "nerfs". Like in every other patch. Even if they're just fine.
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Caperon
17k earth shock crit ftw
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Azazel
L2 dispell Warlock dots
Unstable Affliction
<-- See line 3, 4 and 5.
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Post by
Hurono
Now, ret pallies can't dispell magic effects. It really adds to ret's survivability and mobility and now aw is the only thing they have to kill something one on one
Good point on the dispells; Ret's only thing to kill something 1v1 though?
Pardon my doing this, but I laughed somewhat hard when I read that.
Ret got changed a bit. No more selection of Judgements to choose from, more seal choices, but it NEVER got to the point where you can't kill someone 1v1 w/o a CD. With Shadow's Edge/Byrntoll, you can wreck some people in 4-7 GCD's. Judgement > CS > CS > Excor > CS > TV > HoW...
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