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Comment by frmrpreztaft

He's right in front of the statue that you get Ironfel from for the Key Quest.

Comment by 8512

He's also the only mob that drops the Fiery Weapon enchant recipe, once you learn that enchant you can make a lot in tips.

Comment by 6502

Pyromancer Loregrain is not a rare spawn anymore. this was fixed in a patch.

Comment by grawss

This guy is no longer a "rare spawn." He'll always be there.

For those that just want to farm him for your 40-49 character, you can skip everything but the two groups near his spawn location, then kill his adds and kite him all the way to the beginning of the instance without aggroing any mobs. He is the type that loses aggro once you run too far, so cast a spell or hit him every once in a while.

Comment by Kinta

If you're just looking for the enchantment to drop, this is simple enough with any level 70 character, whether your own or a friends.. whatever. You don't technically need to get in any fight.. I went about 14 times (bad drop luck I'm afraid) and the only things I needed to kill were his two adds, and him himself. Easy way to make money as an enchanter, or just someone who wants to sell the plans. On Ysera, they sell for about 80 gold.. and for a 14% or so drop with a fair amount of ease, it's not so bad.

Comment by 75822

there are no Pyromancer Loregrain in that nabb instance, i didnt find him anywhere!!!

Comment by 29998

Like most, I did this instance many times around level 50-60, but I don't remember instances very well and had a hard time finding this guy when I was solo grinding for the fiery enchant at 70. Hopefully this'll help others:

Enter the instance.
Go through the gate on the left, then through the next gate on the right.
Open the door on your left.
Go up the ramp, and then straight up the next ramp to where all the arena spectators are.
Go around to the other side of the ring and take that exit.
Turn right and this guy is at the end.

Comment by ME412

Very easy to solo farm as a 70 mage. Stick to the walls and you can avoid every mob around then run out. I got 3 Fiery enchant formulas and sold 2 of them.

Comment by 84425

He's actually not a rare spawn, it's the same sort of glitch as the Van Cleef being marked as rare.

Comment by 133967

is he next to the ring of law?

Comment by 43900

Did the ring of law event to open the other door
went up stairs, then turning slightly right, up stairs again.
this is the gallery with the sitting mobs looking down at the ring of law.
turn right as you enter this room and take your next right out
down a small set of steps
to your right is a dead end with the pyromancer at the end.

This was my first attempt and he dropped a pattern and a blue fire wand.

Took about ten minutes. Will certainly be going back to get more patterns for the AH, i hope i am just as lucky next time as it sells for arouns 110G on my server.

Comment by 142377

Totally soloable as feral drood. Did him and his crew @59 with crappy gear. Had three outland greens and the rest was blues below lvl50 and three of them was even below lvl40!

Started off with a ravage and shred while he kneeled infront of the statue, shifted to bear and went on from there. Had to use all my CD's (innervate, frenzied regen...) and a Super Healing Potion. Popped a Magic Resistance Potion (+50 resist all) since there aren't any achemists that brew Greater Fire Protection Potion on my server :(, but it wasn't a bad choice since the escorts will blast you with Arcane Explosions. See to it that the CD on pots is down to at least 30 secs before you start the fight. To be on the safe side :)
Kept Demoralizing Roar and Faerie Fire up throughout the whole fight. First heal was a regular barkskin/healing touch, second was enrage/frenzied regen. See to it that you keep your bash/feral charge up for the adds to stop them from running!

First attempt was spent on learning the way of the fight. Second attempt I got them all but I was unfortunate enough to pull the group infront of them with my last moonfire (on a running add).
Third attempt was flawless! XP Got them all without pulling adds and ended up with all cd's blown, one less Super Healing Potion (out of magic resist pot's)

Too bad, the formula (which I'm here for) hasn't dropped yet so more fun for me! :)

Comment by Jerodast

Any rogue considering soloing at high level (I'm 65): Do not be discouraged by the adds. This is EASY as hell. Didn't need any CDs. All your CCs work on Loregrain. I sapped him, killed the adds, killed him, no problem.

Comment by Faceless

Yo guys!You think i could solo him with a pretty well geared 60 rogue?

Comment by axmojo

one thing to keep in mind is that the adds do run at low health and trigger other mobs, so if youre a rogue doing stealth runs be sure to use your crippling poison and lay off the blade flurry. when i ran this at 64, 2 or 3 elites wasnt bad, but 7 was kinda painful.

Comment by 101038

I've gotta ask, did they change the drop rate for the Enchant Weapon - Fiery recipe? I know it comes down to luck but I've killed him 35 times in the last 2 days and I still haven't gotten it. Bah.

Comment by 160947

solod this on my lvl 64 ret b elf paly, was kind of hard cause i had 2 get the key first. Just ran past most mobs, and Pyromancer Loregrain died easily.

Comment by FarseerLolotea

Definitely not a rare any longer. He's still got the silver dragon...but my shaman practically lived in BRD between the levels of 50 and 57-or-thereabouts. Loregrain was there every time.

Comment by Kuja

sigh. wanted the fiery enchant, killed this guy like 55 ish times and finally i see an enchant scroll drop, though it was enchant boots - spirit ._. it's like 0.01% chance to drop. n_n time to continue farming.

Comment by 122037

this (i believe) is like the http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=10558 guy in strat silver dragon, means rare, but spawns every time....hmmm

Comment by 179638

Everything above is true he is no longer a rare spawn but he still has the silver dragon on his name, if ur a 70 who just got enchanting and want feiry this is the only way to get it or otherwise buy it from som1 but the drop will drop on about the 3-4th try but if it doesnt (this i recently found out) there is a limit to how many times u are able to enter BRD so than u have to wait 5 hours before uca n start again. (if ur 70 than the guys in the hall way leading up to him can be easily passed)

Comment by 241531

just a random thing i found out...if your like me and never ran this instance or got the key, and dont feel like fighting anything, you can skip the ring of law event. I ran in to activate it, and ran back out, and the gate shut me outside. when the first set of mobs spawned, i left the instance and came back, and the gate i needed was open! hope that helps somebody

--Edit here: i also found i can sit outside the gates, which re-opened in about 5-10 minutes (wasn't really counting), though it may be just as quick to kill them anyway <_<

Comment by 138288

Been running here since last night 15 runs completed so far but no Fiery weapon yet :(

Easy as hell to do this as a Rogue just stealth past a few mobs and then kick his ass hehe

To bad blizz implemented the Instance cap though since it takes me like 5 minutes each run to do it i get locked out after 5 runs and have to wait.

Comment by 240223

he is easy to kill and he is always there so it's a great way to make money

Comment by Engwadur

I was working on getting my Shadowforge Key and the recipe dropped off my first kill of Pyromancer, so I achieved the Proverbial 'Two birds with one stone'.

Comment by shadow1

This really isn'ta rare elite he always respawns at that spot every time the instance restarts.

Comment by Calabra

Here is a recommendation I know it may sounds stupid, but if it just may be the case.

For the past few days I have been killing this guy. Every time I do he doesn't drop the Formula for Fiery Weapon. I would walk the short way through the instance, since I'm an 80 Warrior, but I would kill him first and then his companions.

The last time around I decided to kill the companions first and then him. That's when it dropped. Food for thought or maybe BS. Who knows. Good luck.

Comment by 392099

EDIT: Since The Shadowforge Key has been removed from the game, it is even easier to get to him

Go into BRD, on your left you see a gate with a door "Shadowforge Gate". Go through this first one. Then, on your right you will see another door in a gate, go through this second one as well. On your left up a slope you will see a friendly NPC called "Razal'blade" standing to the side of a door into the wall called: "East Garrison Door".

Go through into the hall called "East Garrison". Go up the slope, veering right. You might have to kill a fire elemental on the way. At the top of the slope, go straight ahead, up another small slop into "The Ring of Law". In this case, as you have not completed the Ring of Law challenge, the spectators can aggro, so keep to the inner part of the ring to avoid this. Go across the hall, in a semi-circle. ... and the rest is the same. :)

You can still do this, WITHOUT THE SHADOWFORGE KEY. It's really not that hard if you have a buddy taking you along, or you are a high enough level.
You will need to clear a few extra mobs on the way, but not that many.

~~Enter the instance.~~
~~Go straight up the ramp.~~
~~Cross the middle of the main room, heading straight on.~~
~~That entrance will lead you to the Ring of Law (or Arena as commonly described). This is on the left.~~
]Clear the Mobs that come, and the Mini Boss. (Altenatively go the the centre until you see the arena master appear, then run back out of the arena. Eventually, the gates will re-open after some time and you'll be able to walk through. This means however that the arena spectators in the upper circle will be aggresive so be especially careful.)
~~Go up the ramp, and take a direct right turn and up the ramp again. Stay CLOSE to the wall. Watch out for the mobs in the middle part between the two ramps, especially for the Fire Elementals.~~
~~Go straight past the spectator area to the exit on the opposite side. Since you have done the Ring of Law, the mobs will be neutral.~~
Go down the ramp and turn to the right. There are two sets of mobs on the way, before you get to him.

- You will find him at the end of the corridor. :)

Derwydd - Die Todeskrallen.

Comment by IbFeeshin

A tauren mage... Ok, now I've seen it all.

Comment by danroe

It's kinda weird that only taurens won't be able to be Mages in the next Expansion (Cataclysm) when this guy exists.

Comment by Aristophan

Now that I have the remote, any advice for how to get to this guy from the Bar? I seem to keep running into dead ends.

Comment by FeyGyrl

I'm a very visual person, so I love the "we're walking, we're walking" video tours you often find on YouTube.
For Loregaine, I found a video on YouTube that is pretty darned useful, once you get to the BRD instance entrance. The music is a little too frantic, but it clearly shows how to get in, get to the pyro & light him up, along with the 2 cronies with him. (As long as you know how to get to the meeting stone and then to the instance entrance.
As a side note, I initially used my Direbrew Remote to get to the bar. It got me no where but confused and frustrated, so I popped out then went back in through the main entrance on the Searing Gorge side of the mountain; followed the chain path to the brick walkway; to the little crypt room, and past the blood elf that takes you to the core and on down to the meeting stone.
I hope this helps out a few people, like it did me.
Oh, and the fiery weapon enchantment dropped first time - as that was my goal, for my alt leveling enchanting, I then hearthed out, happy for my little enchanting warlock. LOL Definitely worth the trip as the enchantment recipe is selling for about 200g a shot on the Norgannon AH right now. May have to go back and do this again, just to turn a little profit. LOL

Good luck!

Comment by 780954

Now with the teleporter that's in BRD farming this guy for the fiery weapon recipe is piss easy.
Run in, take the teleporter to "into the domicile", run down the corridor to the south, one shot the boss, loot then run back to the teleporter (must be out of combat to use) then run out and reset.
As a mage with the blink speed boost and invisibility I can get in, kill him and get out and reset in under one and half minutes.

Comment by 865216

For those of whom note Pyromancer Loregrain USED to be a rare mob, possibly still tagged with the silver dragon, he is among a few mobs that are tagged as rare, but are NOT. There is a mob outside the entrance to a dungeon close to Blackrock Depths, in fact very near to it. The name of the mob is, I believe, The Behemoth*... he is tagged as rare, drops a bind on equip Vilerend Slicer (Fist weapon), and I may or may not be correct in saying he gives experience equivalent to that of a regular mob, also respawning probably once every 5-15 minutes. (Note: Vilerend Slicer isn't worth much, on my realm it's only 35 gold). Also in the vacinity of Blackrock Mountain is some kind of Blackrock Orc, he is tagged as rare and drops a quest starter, I believe titled 'Blackrock Commander Orders', or something like that name. I believe, on completion of the quest(s), you get access to Blackwings Lair, through an orb across from the portal into Blackrock Spire. That, or if you die during any of the dungeons or raids, you can walk over to a rug on the ground where the orb would be, from there you would be teleported in. Note: I believe that you must have done the quest starters to become "attuned" to the raid, allowing entrance inside.

Note: For those of whom cannot access a Direbrew's Remote to enter Blackrock Depths, and then on to Molten Core, get summoned there, or have a hard time finding your way through Blackrock Mountain/Depths, inside Blackrock Mountain, at the far northwest corner inside, I believe, through the lava is the entrance to Blackrock Depths. Before you pass through the tunnel system, a Blood Elf has a quest called "Attunement to the Core". Accept it, and enter Blackrock Spire. Take the Abandoned Mole Machine to "Just past the Grim Guzzler", and walk towards a ring of mobs. From there you can attempt to pass them, or kill them. Take a right turn at the first opening to the right of the mobs, and Ambassador Flamelash, a boss, will be there. Again, you may attempt to pass him, or kill him. From there, travel through a chamber to the left of the boss, and you'll find a room full of golems and non-elite dwarves. On chance, you'll run into a rare golem, and I'm not sure if he gives high amounts of experience over the regular mobs/elite mobs. He drops bind-on-pick up gear, which benefits only few. From there, at the other side of the room, is a way into the next room. "The Seven" will be there, confront and speak to the 1 of 7 dwarves at the far back, and you'll commence a "boss fight". Slay each of the dwarves as they attack, and be swift. If one isn't killed fast enough, another will engage as well, on a set timer. Once they are cleared, a cache next to the now-opening doorway appears that contains 2 of 4 rare pieces of gear. Pass through the door, and down stairs through a hallway somewhere to the right should be a new doorway. Go through it and kill or pass a few elemental mobs, and you'll run across what I believe is titled "Fragment of the Core". Remember to pick it up to the left of the new portal, it's a chunk of black crystal. (It is required for the quest "Attunement to the Core".) Hopefully you will have somebody in your group, so you can convert your party to a Raid Group. From there you can bring up to 39 of your friends, or just 1 or 2, inside to do Molten Core. When you're done with Molten Core, you can run back to the entrance of the raid, exit it, and run back to the entrance/exit of Blackrock Depths. Upon exit, make your way out of the cave and back to the area overlooking the lava, and the Blood Elf will accept the 'Fragment of the Core' for the quest. After completion, whenever you talk to him, as a spirit or as alive, he can teleport you back into Molten Core, from there you may exit the Molten Core portal to end up in Blackrock Depths/Blackrock Mountain, otherwise talking to the Blood Elf for ease-of-access to Molten Core.

Note 2: Please don't downrate me for posting something about Molten Core on a Blackrock Depths page. And apologies if some of my information is misleading. Please reply with messages on grammar errors, it can be really embarrasing. Thank you!

Major Note 3: If you would like more information on entry of Molten Core, please visit this page where I have a comment of further and more in-depth, up-to-date information of entry of Molten Core here: http://www.wowhead.com/zone=2717#comments:id=1545504

Comment by MABGamer6407

This Boss was once a rare spawn but sense has become added into the Journal confirming him as Official in the normal loot table. He however is a easy fight and is often missed in a normal run unless mentioned, he may not really be worth the kill unless a player needs the quest from the Twilight portals nearby.

To add to this Comment. He is one of few Tauren based boss mobs. An perhaps is the only one sense Smites removal from Deadmines (and relocated to Pandaria? As a rare spawn. Not confirmed but hinted but likely.) Which if it is true would be irony sense they swapped their rarity places.

Comment by SpakyTwo

Why doesn't the 'drops' list the fiery weapon formula anymore?
I can confirm that he still drops Formula: Enchant Weapon - Fiery Weapon

I got it after I think seven runs.

Comment by sh4rky

If you are trying to do this via the Dungeon Finder it's in Blackrock Depths: Upper City.

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Pyromancer Loregrain

This NPC can be found in Blackrock Depths .

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Heroic		Mythic
Deadly		Important
Tank		DPS
Healer		Interruptible
Magic		Curse
Poison		Disease
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Pyromancer Loregrain

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