4 iLVL more at the end of the first week huh, how interesting.
Wow, that Bloodlust trick is really clever.
it's Funny that the original post said: "HEY THIS IS NOT A EXCUSE"... well for what I can see just made the post it's an Excuse. Blame Blizzard, Blame de ilv, Blame the trolling... and a lot of things and the truth is that they have an advantage, they change faction, and mysteriously they find that troll racial was better (thanks method stream) so they change it also, and nothing... Please Limit... just let it goes, your guys are 2nd again and that's it, are not better than Method for sure, Naowh just said a lot of stuff today in their stream and many things do not match from you said in the testament post, so we don't what's going on for sure if you guys went streaming would be easier and in fact more competitive.And don't know what really thinking about the streaming, did you guys really think other guilds will copy your strategy? hahaha, many guilds were almost in the same advance with you before Jaina. Sorry Limit, very disappointed with all excuses.
I think at this point people have their minds made about the race and no matter what anyone else says, it the way they believe. I am glad to have the race at all as many people watched. Trash on it if you like but you watched. Limit didn't stream? So what, you were talking about it and trying to find any bit of information. Don't be a tryhard and claim you had zero interest...especially if you are reading this post. Blizzard and the raid teams wanted the attention and the views and they definitely came through. Love it or hate it.... you were apart of the process. I am looking forward to each race from here forward and the way it is done will adapt for sure. Stop comparing things from 2005 or 2010. It's not the same the good ole days will be replaced later with times like these and so on. Enjoy it and stop blaming things that aren't there to blame.
Congrats Limit on your hard work and posting all of this. Most people think it is easy and simple until they have to spend 5-7 days to take down one boss. /Hats off to you guys.
The article is wrong about the ilvl difference. This can be verified by using WoWProgress. Here's a timeline:(some of Limit's parses show an incorrect ilvl due to a bug - one of the druids is shown as ilvl 25. I recalculated Limit's ilvl on those parses with him at ilvl 400)- Jan 29, 2019 21:58:00 GMT - Limit clear M Rastakhan, ~402 ilvl- Jan 30, 2019 12:57:04 GMT - Method clear M Rastakhan, ~402 ilvlThe teams running Rastakhan are almost the same as the teams doing Jaina, so both guilds start Jaina at the same ilvl.After some attempts on Jaina, both teams go into heroic splits. It's difficult to tell the exact ilvl they restart Jaina with, but checking Limit's members you can clearly see most of them are at 405+ilvl- Feb 3, 2019 22:32:40 GMT - Limit finish heroic splits. ~406 ilvl (see below)- Feb 4, 2019 02:11:52 GMT - Method finish heroic splits. ~406 ilvl (Jaina kill value)- (14-16 hour block before reset where both guilds are grinding Jaina)- Feb 5, 2019 16:00:00 GMT? - Reset hits US. Limit start their M reclear(no heroic).- Feb 5, 2019 16:26:19 GMT - Limit clear M Grong - ~406 ilvl. This means they had pretty much the same gear after heroic splits and could have attempted Jaina with it.- Feb 5, 2019 17:18:00 GMT - Method clear M Jaina - ~406 ilvl.It seems that Limit didn't have any gear disadvantage. In fact, their strategy to faction change was more cost effective, as Method spent a lot more gold on crafting and gearing alts than Limit spent on the faction change.
What was Limit's alliance guild name?
You method fanboys need to get off your high horse. The only guild you trash is Limit, yet guilds like Exorsus aren't even close. You're all just prejudice NA haters, and that's your problem.
I really like the bloodlust trick they ended up using, that was very clever.It looks like the hesitation in fixing themselves on a strategy weighed pretty heavily here.Since they had access to the Method streams, it shows you those guilds are smart enough to focus on a strategy that works for them, more than just copy pasting someone else's. Because of this, I think there is very little reason for them not to stream next tier.Sure, if they do, Method and the others will have a first look at the bosses you just roll over before they even start, but how many hours does that shave from the total clear? 1? 2? Meaningless.I really hope they (and BDG and others) just go ahead and do it.
Extremely funny that they race changed to alliance to get the 400ilvl loot advantage only to end up race changing back to horde during the race just to get the troll racial ability.....
@Arithawn: Let's not forget that ALL guilds are Horde for the final fight regardless of which faction you play...I'm pretty sure the Troll racial was an unintended oversight on Blizzard's part, I'm getting tired of all the H Bias/A Bias that's showing up everywhere. Both factions are convinced they're being done in by "Big Bad Blizz", (racials/WM Buff/Overwhelming Odds quest/Warfront start times etc.)I almost wish that Blizzard would design the next raid end boss with something like Escape Artist in mind, and that Horde then still clear it first despite Alliance getting an advantage. Prove that racials help but do not outweigh raw talent.Anyway, well done Limit. I may be a Method supporter but I'm happy you guys made second after all the effort you put in.
both teams and even more others are extremely good and clever players.hats off for that Lust all but 1 person strategy, really smartit still takes incredible dedication, skill AND endurance to keep up with all the tries/wipes/testsall teams are to be congratulated, even the rest of the top 100 kills