Blizzard needs to do better about putting more of this detail in game, but people. This isn't hard. It just requires remembering things that happened in-game.Sylvanas could have had a self-sustaining Foresaken army, but Genn #$%^ed it up. Now she needs to kill humans to keep the Forsaken going.Genn @#$%ed it up because the Forsaken attacked Gilneas in the super one-sided Worgen starter quests, but the Forsaken attacked Gilneas because the Worgen had been hunting them for years.The Forsaken are acting, like all people, out of self-preservation, but when you can't just have babies, that !@#$ gets weird. Sylvanas destroys this *!@# because HER future, and her peoples future, were destroyed by the Alliance. We're still playing the expansion where this happened. Why can no one remember this?Real sick of this "Sylvanas is evil" &*!@ when it should be:"Genn directly *!@#ed this whole $%^& up" -or-"hey maybe the factions of the Alliance shouldn't have been murdering the *!@# out of the Orcs, Trolls (thousands of years now, thanks Kaldorei!) and Undead this whole time"-or-"maybe when a victim (Sylvanas didn't ask for this @#$%) lashes out at her oppressors (Arthas made his evil choices while still very much a human), it's not evil"Y'all have such astonishingly rudimentary understandings of morality it's embarrassing.
this *!@# should have been in game havign saurfang tell off the clever @#$%^ would have helped ease some of the negativity
I don’t get how the BFA tease cinematic fits in with this at all. Why does Saurfang cheer when Sylvanas yells “For the Horde!” If he’s supposedly already doubting her? Like seriously, that may be a small thing but it doesn’t fit with anything they’ve shown in game, and now even less with what was revealed in the novella stuff. Like what?
Although this was my response to Bellular's video on why Sylvanas' decision was bad story telling, I want to post it here to further defend the plot line we have seen.1. Sylvanas realized that killing Malfurion would not be enough to accomplish her objectives- it would not be enough to kill hope. So no, she did not have the means to kill hope. She may have even begun to realize this by the time she leaves the killing of Malfurion to Saurfang. To me, this character development and realization (rather than being swayed by emotion) is good writing and ignoring these considerations is bad lore analysis.2. After all the pro-horde bias (which has diminished since wrath but many would stay still existed) and after all the theories about Azshara or others really being behind the burning of Teldrasil, it being Sylvanas was actually the most unexpected outcome to me. Another “Sylvanas was framed!” job (or at least wrongly blamed) like at wrathgate and broken shore would have been repetitive and bad writing.3. Blizzard always hypes stuff up to be what it isn’t- and that sucks. I just wish that Bellular had more criticism for WoW previously when lore was weak, storylines didn’t really finish, game features were lame etc. (before this I thought he was paid by Blizzard).4. They haven’t necessarily locked us into Anduin being good. He still has at least two lies yet to tell us ;) And who knows- there may be some sort of redemption left for Sylvanas- like maybe we find out that she has a residual link to the Lich King and Bolvar has manipulated her mind and emotions to commit this atrocity for his own ends...5. The story of Sylvanas being bad has been set up for a while. People just didn’t want to admit that certain prophecies were about Sylvanas (and maybe they won’t be but it seems more likely now). Her “third death”, “her heart is a hole and we have filled it”...