I keep hoping for a video game movie which will break the stigma associated with "video game movies", but it doesn't seem like that'll happen any time soon. It makes sense that the Warcraft movie wasn't a super big hit with non-fans, but it is disappointing to hear that it wasn't presented in the optimal way.
I saw this yesterday with my friend. He does not play but even so we both understood what was happening. Story was not hard to follow at all. Some of the critic posts I read before seeing the movie made it sound like if you were not a hardcore fan you would feel left out. I ask my friend some questions that the critics said were left out of the movie and he understood the answers. One critic said he did not understand what Fel was. I was blown away at that when the movie discussed Fel in depth like within the first 10 minutes of the movie.
I thought it was okay just like Avatar, how did Avatar get popular, they were both okay movies lmao
Went to see this Sunday in IMax. Other than being to loud as IMax often is which is why I tend not to see anything in IMax, I soon became so immersed I didn't much notice. I was so enthralled the time passed too quickly. I loved it. First movie I've seen in theater in nearly 10 years (lotr). I saw it as a fantasy fan and a wow player. 65, female, gamer girl. Loved it both for it's fantasy and for the lovely easter eggs for the player. Total Immersion during film, no one was texted, or otherwise engaged anywhere but in the story. Good Job Duncan. Sparse audience but it was sunday matinee. For the Horde :D
Warcraft's "5.6mil" fans? Where did they pull this number from? There were 100 million WoW accounts back in 2014...
This reminds me of what happened with Dredd. Dredd bombed at the domestic (U.S.) box office, but it was one of the best movies of the year and it went on to make a killing on home video. Now it's basically a cult classic. It's one of my favorite movies.Pacific Rim also didn't do very well domestically, but it made a ton of money overseas, particularly in China. Now it's getting a sequel staring John Boyega.Warcraft is doing better than those films did, so this gives me some hope for a Warcraft 2, perhaps with a smaller budget. That's not necessarily a bad thing.
also seems this movie has gotten players to play again, or new players in to the game, there is lots of low level chars running arround now, and many do not have heirlooms also.have to hope some of them atleast do continue after the 30 days free.
I echo the validity of film & game/literature having their own timelines, too.Once Lothar saw Garona's dagger in Llanes' neck, there's no way in Hades that Lothar & Garona would ever be 'a thing' - I go with the #KhadGarona if Me'dan is ever in any subsequent film.Also, if Lothar 'had' to have a family member in the story, a younger brother would have sufficed...
Was in cinema two days ago with GF, and we was kinda disappointed. We are both fans of Warcraft universe, she's playing WoW for like 6 years now and brought me in WoW, I was playing Warcraft II, then III, since childhood. Movie wasn't that bad, but wasn't really good too; at least it wasn't as good as Warcraft universe deserves. I see two reasons of this: it was too short and wasn't following lore.Brace yourselves, spoilers ahead, both from movie and official lore.As for lenght, action was simply too fast and plot shorcuts were a bit too annoying; there were several points that could be done better:-Garona's "sideswap": not that she was really in Horde anyway, but look at that: she got caught by Khadgar, imprisoned as orc savage, should be kept in box labeled "Thread with caution" and ocasionally interrogated for loooong time, and bam, three minutes later queen herself brings her dinner, five minutes later she fights braverly for Only True Option aka Stormwind like a born human, even gets fancy chestmail.-Orc invasion speed: Horde advance wasn't shown at all, just we learn that Nation of Azeroth is losing, losing, losing again and again; it made a feeling like they got their butts kicked in no-time, like days; and yet, rest of Seven Kingdoms nations are obviously ignoring threat. Either their representatives on War Council called by Llane should feel nervous seeing how easy Kingdom of Azeroth is falling, or Horde advance was in fact much slower, but movie crew failed to portrait that (see also lore points).-During entire movie I had feeling that there are far too many plot threads, and none is even fully sketched, just jumping from one to another. BAM, we learn Khadgar has escaped Dalaran cuz he just simply escaped, noone filosophy after it, only to BAM make Archmagi of Kirin Tor welcome him "warmly" when BAM he came with news of Medvith's betrayal and BAM demands knowlegde what Alodi is, when in middle time we learn that BAM Khadgar was novice trained to be new Guardian of Tirsfal. From the other side we have Orgrim being friend of Durotan, but he changes his mind every few minutes if he's with or aganist Gul'dan, we have few random shots of Durotan and Drakka with baby Thrall, few random shots of Ironforge (which is in movie most likely simply because it looks cool, Lothar could get boomstick as well in Stormwind), few random shots of Stormwind's neighbourhood, generally many short scenes that are in movie just because they are in movie and they looks cool. -while plot is focused in Medviths betrayal of humanity, all we see that he is good, he is good, there are suddenly some suspictious tips that maybe he is not good at all, and then suddenly it's revealed that he is corrupted by fel. This wasn't best plot change since "I AM YOUR FATHER LUKE", and could be done much better, if only movie was a bit longer and folowing lore closer (look lore points).-once again Garona, but this time her inner change. As for someone who was slave during entire life (first scene of movie, Gul'dan pulling her on chain like dog), her trust to Llane, Lothar & CO seems to be at least too fast gained; she was slave, then prisoner, and yet suddenly a) they decide to trust her knowing nothing about her b) she trusts them only because queen gave her some soup and furs in prison, and decides to follow them, when she simply could ran away at first opportunity, free for the first time c) her stand aganist Gul'dan in last scenes; she just murdered a friend (no matter he called her to do so, so she could have impact on Horde's action on future, and he wanted clean death), was crying and psyhically crushed, and yet not even minute later she stands proudly aganist Gul'dan, pointing fearsome warlock, children-eater and her former master during her entire life that he is doing wrong. As for lore... I think decision that The Beginning and rest of upcomming movies would take place in alternative timeline and would be just loosely based on lore was very bad decision here. Generaly, many of the most valuable threads were either entirely thrown out or compressed/cutted to fit into 2 hours movie,-At first, decision to make Horde invasion happening in one wave, when in lore first orcs came into Azeroth during life of Adamant Wrynn III, father or Llane. This affected many of other things, such as lack of Horde defeat under Stormwind which leaded to raise of Blackhand as Warchief, secret meetings between Medvith and Gul'dan's envoys which could shed some more light on his betrayal of humanity, etc.-Setting Gul'dan as sole leader of Horde, and only fel magic warlock on Draenor, with Blackhand acting just as his general. In lore, he was leading from shadows with his Shadow Council warlocks, with Blackhand as his puppet, and that image would be much more fitting, since even in movie it is shown that other orcs don't respect him, even if they fear him. He is just portrayed as bad grandpa who overused drugs and gained some creepy powers - that is not fitting to the leader of such proud people...-Doomhammer and Durotan being clan mates. Much was said about that, and I think it would be much wiser to keep Orgrim in Blackrock, instead of forcing him being Frostwolf. As Blackhand's right-hand he would have much more autorithy and thus both his loyalty to BH and his defence of Frostwolf "betrayers" would look more realistic. Not even saying that now it would look kinda stupid in sequel if he would be elected new Warchief (he was in lore, after killing Blackhand and cleanse of Shadow Council...)-..yeah, death of Blackhand from Doomhammer and destruction of SC was turning point of First War in lore; united under single will of Orgrim Horde layed wasted on Stormwind armies, totaly destroying them, and then city itself. Fall of Stormwind and it consequences, Gul'dan's coma (lore-wise he was in Medviths mind, searching for Tomb of Sargeras location, when befouled Guardian was killed by Lothar)... Now, if there would be further movies, the break between lore events, on which they are supposed to base, and real movie plot, will get even larger and larger... Not the healthiest solution for game-based movie.-Garona's story, altough she still plays major role in movie, was simplified. In lore, Medvith was first who in fact threated her with kindness, it was him who showed her that she isn't limited to serving as Gul'dan's slave (in lore version, she was kept by Gul'dan as assassin, not slave, yet she was slave in fact, being forever an outcast and forced to rely on her combat abilities and protection of warlock for survive). In fact, she was far more tragic character in lore than in movie, with constant fight between her feelings and Gul'dan's magic forcing obedience, and later even more broken with seeds of doubt planted in her mind by Medvith before he was finally slain. In movie, she simply kills Llane because he calls her to do it, because he wants clean death and her to have impact on future Horde actions ("Ya backstabba' punny hummies king-thing, ya gonna be da warboss"... it's not Warhammer 40,000, those are Orcs, not Orkz, so cmon...). In lore she is forced to do so, by both Gul'dan's magic and Medvith spell, feeling her with doubt so she is unable to hesintate; she kills Llane, who was her friend, crying, being broken another time by her master's evil will, just to end tortured by Orgrim and friends to reveal Gul'dan's hideout... Generally, I would say that thing that hurted movie mostly is that is was mady like a Another Typical American Fantasy Movie, with action greatly densed so noone could get bored watching it, and plot simplified hard so everyone could get what's going on screen. In my opinion, honestly, it is not the direction the Warcraft movie should go; with such rich lore, entire universe deserves, and is able to handle in terms of plot, much better movies, at level of Lord of the Rings. But unfortuantelly, I am not American, so my opinion is worthless for Those, Who Decide. Yet still, focusing on USA teenagers as main movie target while having so big fan base worldwide, composed mostly of people at or above 20-25 years old, is bad decision.For now, I would give W:TB like 6/10, and hope that next movies will happen and will be better. Especially if it'd come to Third War events, and Arthas fall from Light and raise as first Death Knight, then Lich King. Potential of these events should not be wasted...
Where do we enter the jinx shirt contest :)? If its here, I loved the movie. I thought Gul'Dan was a pure bad ass and was as scary as you made him out @tradechat! Loved this movie!
I saw the movie on Sunday with my brothers and sister-in-law. I had extremely low expectations because the trailers looked awful, visually and narratively. But this movie has been in the works for so long and has been, in a sense, Blizzard's baby, so I didn't count it out just yet. I'm highly critical of movies. In fact, I hate most movies because they're lazy and predictable. My brother and I have been playing WoW for 10 years and we both loved the movie. We couldn't shut up about it after. I have read so many bad reviews, some of which seem as though the critics went into the movie wanting to hate it. I'm not sure if being familiar with the game makes a difference in order to "get" the world in which it's set. My sister-in-law said she was completely lost. Medivh, Draka, and Khadgar were my favourites. I'm really excited to see the director's cut when the DVD comes out, after hearing that it was a lot of Medivh/Khadgar stuff that was cut for time. I really enjoyed the movie. Of my friends who've played the game for a decent chunk of time, all said they enjoyed it (with the exception of the tweaking of some of the lore). I think it's a great movie. And while I'm sure there was hope of using the film as a vehicle to grow the user base, that stands to be seen. But I think for fans of the game, at least myself, it was nice to see a different incarnation of a game I have devoted so much time, energy, and love to.
I saw this movie last Thursday evening (I know...release date was advertised as June 10 in the US, but I had tickets for the evening of June 9th), and the first thought out of my head as I left the theater was, "If you're already a Warcrack fan, you'll 'get this' immediately. If you're not, you're probably wondering, "Huh?" I saw it in Real 3D and I have to say that I'm not sure the 3D really added all that much to the experience. I think it would have been just as good in 2D. And I kind of wish I'd brought ear-plugs as it was a LOT louder than necessary. (I found myself idly wondering if I'd stumbled into the "Hearing Challenged" showing.)I thought the movie was worth it if for no other reason than just to see the renditions of Stormwind and IronForge, etc. And I think a person that had never even heard of the concept of Warcraft could still get a few chuckles out of the fact that Kadgar couldn't seem to get any respect no matter what.You'd have to have a very cold heart, indeed, not to feel your heart tear at least just a little bit for Garona, even if you knew absolutely nothing about her. Kudos to Paula Patton for a great performance!If this does attract lots of new players to the game, great! I think we could use some "fresh blood" as it seems, lately, it's mostly listening to a lot of people who are at least partially burned out on the game. It's been more like listening to a bunch of IcyVeins pro's discussing the most technical aspects of the game, and I rather miss hearing newbies discovering that "Murlocs are evil!" But let's hope that this time we get truly adventurous players and not like the hoards of 10 year-olds that just want to do absolutely nothing but sit outside of Orgrimmar or Goldshire, throwing up duel flags at anybody that happens to run by. I usually have chat-channels turned off anymore, but it'd actually be nice to have somebody run up to me and ask, "How do I fish" again.
I know it's a little late for posting on this topic. Just saw the movie last night with my daughter and we both really enjoyed it. We were apprehensive based on the reviews I had been reading on the web. Can't wait for the next sequel great job Blizz team! Also I know many have debated the differences in lore between the movie and game, and thought i would add my two cents. Why not adjust the lore to match the movie so that new players would see the movie coincides with the game.