You know, this isn't THAT bad, and is absolutely passable for WoW level-lore.Problem is it's come after the expansion is over and the Jailer defeated lmao AND it's out of the damn game! Sylvanas "realising" the injustice of the world as a result of interaction with a "mysterious being" should have been front and centre of her plot for years not the random emo outbursts without any context that we got.
Shouldn't these things needed to be explained in-game? I mean it's great that we have novels with more details but this is simply stupid that there are things explained there but not in-game.
Being told all this, their plans and motivations should have happened earlier imo, instead of trying to have it be a mystery for far too long. I feel like i got more on jailer from this single article than in the game in a year and a half.Still looking forward to listening the audiobook, genuinely enjoyed before the storm. There really should be a proper recap in game for these.
Wish we got more of this in game, especially from the jailer.
ok decided to have a look at this because of how central/famous lsw's lore isthis, has more plotholes than t/j's cheese and way less logic behind her choice.. character depth (yes ik it considered made justice but come on).. hay even arc development as a bookthis completely confirmed the way i see wow's storytelling outside nobbel's channeli will never understand how people cry how bad shadowlands' lore is as a whole (which isn't that bad really) but consider this famous to put in front at our country's cons..
Make no sense..
"Let's move all the reasoning for what happened to a book"
And the Jailer knew Sargeras would lose and stab Azeroth…how?Sure - filling Argus full of death magic to break the Arbiter whenever it died…fine whatever.But KNOWING EXACTLY what Sargeras would do when sucked back into his chair by Titan sparkles… Come on. This dude truly was playing 9D chess but still couldn’t better plan to deal with those same 20 murder hobos he was counting on to beat Sargy?You can’t write a decent character that is only selectively omniscient. It falls apart immediately.How’d he even lose the first time against the other Eternal Ones if he can call shots this clearly and far out?
This stuff should be explained better in game.
This isn't bad at all, but I also hate this with a fiery passion...Why couldn't this have just been told in the damn game? We would know a hell of a lot more about the Jailer back in Wrath then we know NOW in present Shadowlands. This is the problem I have with the lore, why do we have to buy the !@#$ing books, to understand what ANYTHING is happening in Shadowlands? The story would have been 10x better had we known this from the get go.
Very interesting reading. I'd always wondered whether Sylvanas' grief at the deaths of people like Varian and Vol'jin was genuine or not, or whether she'd already sided with the Jailer and didn't care about anyone anymore.Also, all the guys whining about how it should've been ingame need to stuff it. Complementary material has always been a thing and doesn't make the story any less.
I think a few things happened here.First, the intended reaction was supposed to be more like "Oh wow, why is all of this bad stuff happening." "Phew, we barely overcame that." .. "Oh my gosh, THAT is why this happened! Crazy!"And somewhere in the middle of the last 6+ years we've had people at Blizzard crawling under desks to look up skirts, dismissing ideas and taking nudie pics of employees before battling a lawsuit and eventually getting terminated with their projects halfway undeveloped.During that whole mess we were lucky to even have an expansion. Storylines were changed months before the beta testing began and everyone who's usually 2 years ahead was now closer to 6 months~ 'ahead'. And a lot of story fell through the cracks.This very novel was supposed to come out last year. And the end of it is about Sylvanas being in the Maw locating souls.. Last year..So the "Tah-do, oooo, wow" moment just turned into us being frustrated at a 'tantalizing mystery' that played out far longer than it should have. And while this book is AMAZING (my fav), it's still just too late. If we were clued in on half of this stuff beforehand in-game, would it have taken anything away from the enjoyment? No, it would have increased it. Everyone loves to speculate. We'd all have been going, "Oh, maybe it's this-this-this." Just like we do with the void whispers posted in the article. Please Blizzard. Your patches aren't regular enough to maintain this level of 'mystery'. Just give us more bread crumbs, bigger clues, and let us follow the lore in episodes. Not everything has to be a call back to '6 seasons ago...'
I'm not normally one to complain about the lore and in-game story telling but when you need an entire book external to the game and an article on a third party site to adequately pull all the pieces together I think there has been a definite failure to communicate the story well. That said, I do like the story when it's put together in the way that it appears to us in this synopsis. I have always loved Sylvanas as a character but the telling of her story has been uneven and patchy AT BEST, at it's worst it was incoherent and sometimes just unbelievable- for example, her arrival at the point where she was driven to commit the genocide of Teldrassil was so out of the blue and uncharacteristic even after her motivations were explained further in Shadowlands, furthermore the willingness for the Horde to comply with this was also still, unbelievable.
We should boycott warcraft books till they stop making them as excuse of poor plot ingame. It's like buying dlc which is cut from whole game with proper ending and story. "Oh you didnt find our game intresting but if you buy this DLC book you will know what trully happend!"