Warcraft Logs Experimenting with External Buff Caps for Rankings in Season 4

Live Posted 2022/07/29 at 2:35 PM by Squishei

Power InfusionFae GuardiansBlessing of SummerKindred Affinityonethree total pollsthey have decidedcapping buffssingle sourcePower InfusionPower InfusionPower InfusionPower Infusion and other externals have been a hot topic for some time now! Warcraft Logs has been polling the community, gathering feedback, and discussing potential solutions for Dragonflight.

Season 4
Due to the short duration and experimental nature of Season 4, we thought it would be a good time to test one of the popular options, capping externals. Note that this is a test, and we are still weighing other options for externals━ nothing is cemented for Dragonflight yet!

External Cap Rules
The following external cap rules will be applied to rankings. Any parses that break these restrictions will not be ranked. Only the player who breaks the cap will have their parse invalidated━ the guild rankings, and other players in the report, will not be affected.

Power Infusion, Blessing of Autumn, Benevolent Faeries, and Kindred Empowerment will be capped. This cap is based on the spells' cooldowns. These restrictions will take cooldown reductions such as conduits, or Mikanikos, into account.
The number of externals received cannot exceed the number of which could be given to one individual by one partner. However, you may receive each buff from more than one player, so long as the number of buffs you receive remains under the cap.

For example: If a priest were to die midway through the fight, and another priest instead gives you Power Infusion, the cap will not trigger and your rank will not be invalidated (so long as it doesn't give more PI uptime than a single priest could provide).
Each cap is independent. You can receive all 4 buffs as long as you remain under the cap for each individual buff.
These caps have some safety functions built in to prevent accidental invalidations from intentional trolling.
Only external buffs received from other players count towards the cap.

For example: If you are a Shadow Priest and use your PI on yourself, you will not be disqualified when receiving PI from another priest.

Dragonflight
As was mentioned above, we are still working to make the right decisions regarding externals in Dragonflight. The community has helped immensely with this by giving us feedback! If you would like to be involved in the discussion, join us on Discord and be sure to keep an eye out for on-site polls.

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Comment by onefishbluefishOK but Joe warlock still gonna get rekt by PI guy.Comment by TelomirAnd so it beginsComment by Froschlampinice thought excluding the dmg (for ratng) during these buffsComment by pawpurrehhh wrong move imo

dps needs to go the priest/buffer, it's harder to do the math and would be a rough estimate but that's the only way to fix "support" for loggingComment by FrenchKissLike on FF-log, isn't it possible to transfer the dps gain from the PI to the priest who cast the spell?Comment by ghullLike on FF-log, isn't it possible to transfer the dps gain from the PI to the priest who cast the spell?Comment by izaulLike on FF-log, isn't it possible to transfer the dps gain from the PI to the priest who cast the spell?Comment by evertonbelmonttShould be removed from logs or be on a separate tab/ranking.

An alternate and not the default ranking.Comment by DahhakaYeah I don't really care if people want to degen, just let me filter it out so I can compare.Comment by AnGryShaDoWsremove the stupid pi from the game or make it for tanks/healers
pleaseComment by Agentkillerleeehhh wrong move imo

dps needs to go the priest/buffer, it's harder to do the math and would be a rough estimate but that's the only way to fix "support" for loggingComment by grimssKinda surprising, could you show the results of the votes ?Comment by BleakerIf I am reading this right the inner troll in me would join forces with another priest and have the power to invalidate any parse we want to. Muhahaha!Comment by JakartinEast fix. Just no one who wants to parse will say it’s good cause “my parse”. Just do like ff logs. Rdps, adps, ndps. All buffs go the the person who is responsible for the buff. Imagine mage getting more dps because of arcane intellect. Will never happen tho cause to many people want there numbers higher how ever inflated they can make it.Comment by Nevcairielehhh wrong move imo

dps needs to go the priest/buffer, it's harder to do the math and would be a rough estimate but that's the only way to fix "support" for loggingComment by EarthElf9If I am reading this right the inner troll in me would join forces with another priest and have the power to invalidate any parse we want to. Muhahaha!Comment by VooDooSaurusI'm curious about the edge cases of this idea. Say for instance you have 2 priests in the raid, and it's set up for one to be PI'ing you every 2 mins. Let's say the OTHER priest decides to PI you with 2% left of the Boss's HP, thus bringing you over the cap. Would this invalidate your parse, or would there be some form of leeway to avoid trolling? Going to be interesting to see how this works out, definitely not an easy answer to the buff problemComment by LuniiOdd that innervate isn't on the list of externals to be excluded or capped. Sure, healer logs aren't the exact same but the principle is. There are definitely some really degenerate healer logs out there being spammed innervates and even PI that should be subject to the same caps and exclusions.Comment by majkosehhh wrong move imo

dps needs to go the priest/buffer, it's harder to do the math and would be a rough estimate but that's the only way to fix "support" for loggingComment by dembroTo the people saying "just do it like FF xd", I want to clarify something. Do you mean that for the duration of the external buff, all damage dealt by the buffed player is instead attributed to the buff caster? Because that's the only way it'd work in WoW...

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