I am mildly concerned if the timer dictates majority of the score. If I clear everything on every floor and do all bonus objectives and jars etc, but it takes me 5-10 minutes to do so per floor, I will be extremely irritated if I 'fail' to get 4star because I was too slow - despite doing everything.I like this system from the looks of it so far, but if speed is a major value on whether I complete a layer or not will be the make or break for me.
No more timed crap please, it's enough in M+....
The talent tree sounds good, but I just... don't want to have to speedrun Torghast. The runs are draining enough, I want to be able to take it easy and no-brain it, rather than adding another coke fuelled speed fest mega pull hyper aoe $%^&show to my weekly routine.
thorgast is island expeditions shadowlands version.
Choregast will never be good
If Torghast is turned into Mythic+, I'm never doing Torghast again, which seems so by the whole "go go go speedrun it with the hotstreak" mentality and affixes.I liked Torghast because I could chill and do it at my own pace. Having a death counter was sort of good because in pretty much every rogue-lite/like game, death is kinda the end of your run, but with no death penalty, you could technically just throw yourself at enemies and bosses forever until you make it.I hope the requirements to unlock new layers aren't speedgated either.I was super excited to do more torghast on my alts to see powers, but I fear it will be turned into something only hardcore mythic+ crowd will enjoy.
Darn it I wish somebody would tell them not all their players want a stressful arcade game vs. a timer. There's already other great games for that.There's also no need to further incentivize speed - it is its own reward in that it grants more resources per minute. Players who are choose a more chill pace are already prioritizing that playstyle over maximum return (because it gives them maximum enjoyment), why is there a need to further penalize them.They had a period where they were clearly trying to include as many player types as possible. It seems like they are actively reversing course now.
Fewer and fewer will do Torghast after this. That is for sure.
As if Torghast didn't suck enough, now we add torments and speed clears. We already have m+ for this and it's better. They should just scrap Choreghast all together. Most of what 9.1 is offering makes me want to move on and stop playing WoW.
interesting they are trying timers again since in beta players were pretty adamant they hate timerseven the perception of a timer was off putting for some (it's a psychological thing which I totally get)
Blizzard, when we were asking for solo queue in mythic+, that's not what we meant!Jokes aside though, I think this might give Torghast some much-needed difficulty and variety (assuming the affixes torments change weekly).However, the most important part of it all are rewards. The old Torghast would've been fine too if it had rewards worth doing. Soul ash and a mount aren't enough imo, we need much more. Transmogs, mounts, pets, you name it!It doesn't matter if they're all recolors, anything is better than having a gameplay mode you do just for challenge's sake. Heck, some would consider raiding such an end-game challenge mode since both PvP and mythic+ provide better gearing and you beat the raid just for prestige and achievements.
I'm quite unsure about this. If i can get my score points without doing a speedrun, its absolutely fine for me, and with the talent-tree coming in even an improvement.If i have to do some sort of SpeedRun to unlock more layers this is gonna stress me and i'm already not doing high m+ for that reason. Have enough stress in RL, don't need it ingame.Gonna test and see. Maybe no more torghast for me
Hmm NGL these your sound like they are made to make torgast more annoying and i bet these torments will stack with already annoying floor debuff.the torments are lighter versions of m+ affixes it doesn't really add anything just making mobs do more damage and take longer to kill is just not interesting.on top of that making it so you need to at least 4 out of 5 star it before you unlock the next floor really?Beating the end boss of the floor should be enough credit to open the next floor if people want to go for a all 5 star for a title or something let them.But for people who just want to clear all floors ASAP so we only need to do 1 level in each wing each week for our leggos.We are already spending time on something we don't want to do don't make us spend even more time doing something we did not want to do in the first place.Unless ofc getting 4 stars are REALLY easy then whatever i will just hammer it out i just dont see the point in the torments other then it tormenting the players who want as little time with torgast as possible
so much efforts for just useless mode
Sick - I actually liked Horrific Visions - last part of bFA was actually pretty fun
Unlocking next layer should just require previous layer completion without all of that "get X stars" crap.