I'm glad that they finally had Thrall accept some responsibility for Garrosh. That was one of the biggest criticisms of the Nagrand finale and it's nice to see they gave it some resolution here.
Given where the story might go as a whole, there's a possibility that there will be no future for Thrall. Nor will there be for everyone else. Still have a rampant death god to deal with. And he very well might win. And if he does, I suggest deleting the Warcraft franchise in general because it'll be past, present, and future that will be erased.
friendly reminder that Thrall cheated in Mak'gora
No, it was Tralls fault, he saw Garosh at the Dalaran meeting about Ulduar and many other first hand accounts and still abandon him. Thrall is 100% to blame for everything in that story arc. This redeption attempt is hollow after seeing Garosh still have a pair unlike Trall even in the afterlife.
As much as I dislike Garrosh, Thrall did kinda set him up to fail. Dude had almost zero leadership experience and was given a sinking ship.Granted, I'd have liked Garrosh more if Blizz had been more consistent.Garrosh in one zone: "Go invade these neutral people." (invading Gilneas)Garrosh in another zone: "How dare you kill these neutral people?" (Stonetalon)Garrosh in a third zone: "GO KILL THOSE NEUTRAL PEOPLE!" (Alliance when everyone's supposed to be dealing with Twlight's Hammer in Twilight Highlands)
Okay but... Draka's analogy is flawed. An untrained wolf is obviously going to react badly when thrust into a situation it has no context for. Garrosh was given no real preparation for his tenure as Warchief--he was promoted above his own honest protests, even! At no point in the War in Northrend did he demonstrate the acumen necessary for a Warchief under the reformed Horde. A high overlord to succeed Saurfang? Absolutely; The Shattering showed he had learned significantly from his early blunders in Northrend. But he utterly failed at even the most basic diplomacy unless he was dealing with sycophants or gravel-scraping cowards.Thrall dumped the worst situation imaginable into Garrosh's lap and bounced, after writing off a better candidate out of hand as "too old" and "the Horde would never follow a tauren," despite Cairne being pretty much universally loved in- and out-of-universe for his battle prowess, intelligence, and empathy, so much so that he was one of the playable characters in Rexxar's story in The Frozen Throne. He gave Garrosh no support network, he spared no time to ease Garrosh into the situation, he ignored Garrosh who knew he wasn't remotely ready for the mantle and responsibilities of Warchief... and then he was surprised when Garrosh's immediate reaction was to start up the war machine, alienate all his allies and advisors, and cause multiple diplomatic incidents among the other leaders of the Horde, culminating ultimately in a bloody coup as he broke under the strain and kept pushing his allies to the brink while surrounding himself with sycophants.Thrall absolutely bears a level of culpability for Garrosh. He threw Garrosh into a job wildly above his competence, and when Garrosh's reign turned out predictably disastrous on the global stage, did nothing but advise Jaina to get married and have kids because it worked out well for him. I hope he doesn't take this chat with Draka, who was completely removed from the situation and only knows Thrall's feeling sorry for himself, as an opportunity to absolve himself completely of his culpability in what Garrosh became.
Friendly reminder that you should learn a bit more before posting silly things.
"And in the end, it was my hand that struck him down."Nonsense. Thrall doesn't have a giant hand made of stone! That was the elements aiding him, which also ended up causing them to not let him wield Doomhammer. Thrall's word imply he killed Garrosh with strength, but he instead won with magic. "It was by my power" would've been accurate, even if "by my hand" is more cinematic. Adding to the friendly reminders that Thrall would have absolutely lost if he didn't call for aid. Garrosh was absurdly strong, being able to control an old god's powers like an absolute chad and all. I just wish he had a good sendoff. The corny machinima did not do him justice.
In Mak'gora, rules are chosen. when Cairne challenged Garrosh they settled for traditional combat : 1 weapons, no armor, only cloth, 1 blessing & each a witness. This was why Garrosh felt dishonored when he learned Grimtotem also had applied poison of Garrosh's weapon.When Garrosh & Thrall fought, they were no such rules made only that it was to the death.
Please compare these 2 cinematics and then say "Shadowlands is better than WoD" without coughing up blood.But seriously, how can you release something like this? I know that was made by one person. But if you are alright with releasing something in this state, you deserve to lose your fans/money/job!If i was the lead dev of WoW, i would fire the one person who made this abomination of a cinematic. People which are this unskilled at their job, dont deserve this job.
And then Drakka just goes "whatevs" and absolves him of any and all responsibility. Yes, Garrosh chose his own path, and yes Thrall did limit his options by seeing the hero-image of his father in him instead of seeing Garrosh.