It seems like a common trend to hate on warcraft lore just for the sake of it.I think the Nathrezim Story is a perfect twist in the perception of events to expand a universe that has grown to it's limits over years and years. If you guys really want WoW to die rather than to have this kind of Story development then go play wotlk private servers for the rest of your lifes and gtfo with your negativity.Also i bet none of you complained about Gandalf coming back to life in LotR but somehow it's a big deal when Blizz does it
I am sorry, but at this point I don't have any more faith in WoW's writers.Are we now supposed to believe that Denathrius is the 5D chess master of the multiverse who has orchestrated/caused everything that has happened in the series? By his orders, the nathrezim have caused the fall of Sargeras and the creation of the Burning Legion, which already accounts for most events in some way or another, but that book in the Spire of Unseen Guests also explains that they manipulated the other forces in the universe, which implies they may have had a hand in other things related to the Light, the Void and possibly nature.Denathrius, the guy we barely interact with and only see spouting Saturday morning cartoon villain one-liners and cliché, obviously suspicious remarks before his obvious treachery is revealed. The guy that is supposed to be an Eternal, an entity on the same level or above the Titans that has created an entire plane of existence (Revendreth) around his being, from which we can surmise that he is unconceivably powerful but in-game (not saying just as a boss, but also from cutscenes and what we're told) he doesn't seem to be stronger than, let's say, Kael'thas or any other mildly powerful humanoid with magic. We see Khadgar displaying much greater feats of power during the introducton quests of Warlords of Draenor and he's just a human mage. A very powerful one, but still a human mage.How are we supposed to believe that Denathrius is an all-powerful cosmic entity that is behind the greatest evils of the universe? They aren't doing a great job at setting up the Jailer as a powerful enemy either. Compare to how Arthas and Deathwing's actions (and their aftermaths) are presented in their respective expansions. Or how we're shown the extent of Sargeras' power (and how impossible it would be to fight him, despite him being on the same level as the Eternals, if not lower).And the dreadlords were the original inhabitants of the Ember Ward? The Burning Legion's numbers are (were) unconceivably large to the point of being called infinite. Dreadlords were everywhere in the universe as spies, commanders or lorekeepers. They had their own planet full of archives containing the entire knowledge of the Burning Legion and possibly the cosmos! This planet was described as their homeworld, destroyed by Illidan during one of his incursions. The "homeworld" bit may be explained by this retcon, but how do you house such an insane amount of dreadlords (which have been playing pretend in the Legion for untold aeons, apparently) in what's described as a "ward"? They'd need an entire plane of existence for themselves.Hell, now that I'm talking about planes of the Shadowlands, the entire concept and visual representation of the Shadowlands is flawed. They don't look like afterlives. They could very well be random alien planets. They're full of reborn people from all kinds of alien worlds that have probably been there for many milennia or since the dawn of existence, but they don't act any different than Azeroth mortals, and these afterlives are also full of living fauna. I know the way zones look in-game doesn't reflect their actual size in lore, but there's no way you can believe these planes are supposed to house EVERY MORTAL BEING WHO HAS EVER DIED IN THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE. Stop and think about that last sentence. Does Revendreth give you the impression of being bigger than Suramar? And what's with that stupid explanation of your anima dispersing if you die in the Shadowlands and poof, you're gone forever? The Shadowlands are not an afterlife, they're just a second life that doesn't feel much different from the mortal realm.And I'm not going to discuss about other huge issues about WoW's writing in the last few expansions, because I could fill entire pages about how every character now talks and behaves like a one-dimensional sock puppet, and how certain fan-favorite (and also favorites of the old writers) characters are being humiliated and sidelined on purpose to make the current writers' favorite characters seem favorable in comparison. Or why they made three volumes containing the "definitive lore" of the series just to retcon it in the next WoW patch (7.3 at the time of Chronicles Vol. 1) and hand-wave it as having been written from the point of view of the titans. That's just lazy and disingenuous, and a middle finger to the fans.
The story makes perfect sense if you connect the motives. The shadowlands is outside of the laws of time so keep in mind that Denathrius could or was already in league with the Jailer. So now you have the Nazthrezim being this weapon able to spread the influence of Death to all other realms. This fills in so many questions for us and why they did what they did ultimately to tip the balance in Deaths favor. It also shows how there main goal was to kill Azeroth. They created the Lich King ultimately, they showed the Legion how to use the powers of Death with the scourge, and they could of possibly showed Sargeras how to turn Argus into a titan of death by using his power to fuel the Legion (perhaps the same reason they want Azeroth). The biggest thing to remember is time does not work the same way in Death so the Nazthrezim could have been created long before Sargeras even betrayed the other titans. They where most likely a key reason he created the Legion and went around destroying entire worlds. What better way to create Death than use a titan who can split an entire planet in half. Would make for a much smoother story line down the road too
i hate how things like the dreadlords are connected to the shadowlands its poo poo writingalso you wanna hear my theory about how everything is connected to the old gods