I play fine not knowing my score. 👍
I'm failing to see how this is a "guide."This is more personal opinion on what should be common sense. If people are looking to push higher keys they are already doing most of these things, this late in the season writing a "guide" on things people pretty much already know is just filler and fluff.Raider.io is an okay metric, but it is in no way a complete measure of a players skill or ability. Perhaps you're a really skilled Shaman, but because you've had a bad run of luck you're unable to complete keys consistently your score isn't as high as it should be. None of the above is really groundbreaking information, nothing in this fluff piece (I refuse to call it a "guide" again) is really new information that people don't already know.Now on to a few things that stuck out to me...
My advice is, just don't participate at all. I've played this game since 2004 and no longer have interest in these kinds of scoring systems. I'm about to turn 40 and have plenty of other accomplishments in my life aside from a video game score. I think this is mostly an age issue - I can't imagine someone 35+ getting so worked up over a RIO score. If they are, then they need to really sit and think about that.
IO is utterly toxic. People are out there requiring + 200 io extra than what you need to complete the run. Can't wait until SL when ppl will start asking for 800 IO and AOTC to do a +2.
yes just because there are idiots in lfg i should reroll lol wtf. reroll my ass i rather quit
"don't use LFG, play with friends."Guess I can't play.
Oh, something for this tryhards who just jell all the time "i have better io score, you have low io so you are bad, im better in everythink bro".
Here are few examples of WHY something like raider.io score is necessary if YOU don't want to see "your" run mess up.People not doing Unbound Abomination in Underrot right. It takes ONE person to make that boss miserable for the whole group.People not doing pretty much all the bosses in Atal'Dazar right. (Have seen people fail at Rezan kiting / fear, soaking bloods puddles on Priestess Alun'za, messing up totems on Vol'kaal AND staying spread all over with spiders on Yazma).People not doing Skycap'n Kragg and Harlan Sweete in Freehold right.People not doing Chopper Redhook and Viq'Goth in Siege of Boralus right. Bonus thumbs down to those Hunters who STILL have no clue what a slow/tar trap is and it is really great for Dread Captain Lockwood if you have a tank with no slow effects ability.People NOT doing barrels right in Knight Captain Valyri fight in Tol Dagor. Those barrels get messed up even on higher keys by people with good IO score.People staying spread in the room and filling it up with poison in Merektha fight (specially on tyrannical) and missing beams on Galvazzt both in Temple of Seth.And the pretty obvious one is interrupts on trash mobs specially on Fortified, your answer to why not interrupting should NEVER be something like, "Aren't guardian druids better at taking magic damage?"These are "few" examples that are pretty much ignored when doing random heroic run but when you start doing Mythic Plus keys, then all of this become pretty much mandatory. Even at lower keys, depends if its Tyrannical/Fortified, bosses and trash can be lethal if mechanics ignored.
I have heard of this Nonsense. I don't see how that helps with having fun.
This is uh... certainly a thing.
He's not wrong tho.If your goal is to m+ and m+ lots but your playing something thats terrible at it then yea, rerolling should be considered.From my experience on a crap realm with mostly super casuals, people that complain and say IO is toxic simply just dont want to try or put effort in. IMO the fact theres a weekly chest from m+ and the fact that ppl feel entitled to it is the more toxic thing but w/e....back to the point. Season in and season out people have this same stupid complaint "IO is toxic! IO is the reason I cant play the game! IO kills my chance in pugs! Waaaaah!"But every time ive ever inspected any of these complainers, their IO is garbage or near non-existent. Like a 500 score or half the instances have no runs. And these people are applying for the weekly 15 and getting denied and crying? I tell them earn scores and work your way up, start lower, get scored in runs then increase the difficulty. The following week, same complaints in gc, same guilt trips being thrown and the m+ regulars for not carrying. Inspect IO... literally no change >.<
Step 1: don't play an offmeta class or you won't push cause noone will invite you even at 2.5k. That's coming from a 4k shadow player.
RaiderIO in itself is not toxic, however it does have it’s own wide ranging set of issues. Right in the name of the metric is the word “raider,” yet as far as I can tell, your raid score and/or any progression in raids is absolutely not used in figuring the score... it should more appropriately be called “Mythic+IO.” Using someone’s IO score to gauge ability is also false. I can spend all the tokens I want and get carried to a 2.5-3k IO score, but have zero actual experience or ability. Oh wait, that is one of the strats mentioned in the “guide.”The toxic part of RaiderIO is the toxic people who only look at the number, and judge another players ability by it. Insta denying a player who doesn’t meet your number expectations without considering any other factors is why the system is flawed. As for this guide, “reroll a more meta class?” If I have to play a flavor of the month class just to play a portion of the game, well maybe that portion of the game isn’t for me, or maybe the players demanding my score be astronomically high just so they can get carried are not people I want to play with. Usually when I see a listing asking for an IO score that is WAY beyond what’s needed for a given level, the first thing I think is “this guy wants a free carry.” I also expected the next bullet point after that to be “git gud.” This guide sounds just like the group leaders who won’t invite a 470ilvl with AOTC to a +5 freehold... at this point anything +7 or below is a face roll unless the affixes stack up poorly. There really shouldn’t be a place for IO exclusivity in the game. At some point Blizz just needs to make an overall score, taking raids, ilvl, mythics, achievement score, and just overall game play ability, and create its own meta score for each player. Stop letting third party websites drive the game.
Removed
Raiderio and similar sites or methods killed the joy and fun in WoW (link achiv or ilvl etc)For example, I am wow player with a limited time to play duo to real-life things family and work...And still, I come back to play when I have time but it is very hard to do anything you will spend weeks or monthsjust to join a normal raid let alone heroic or mythic. just right now with the Pandemic, I played again 8.3 after stopping b4 8.2Even if it is not a long time there is no way I can get to M+ groups or raids VERY DIFFICULT with ilvl 455It is very depressing and annoying Raiderio is a fix that is been misused and people's minds or way of thinking has changedIt worsens each day more toxicity and more materialistic even a glance look at trade chat make me want to quit again with all boosting spams they just ruined it.
This reads like a "How to Land the Interview!" article, which is to say, I really wish WoW was still just a goofy online game with orcs.Everything doesn't have to be BALLS TO THE WALL COMPETITIVE PROGRESSION TO THE MAX. I don't need or want more than one job.
Raider IO number on its own is pretty meaningless. It's always better to look at how many timed runs someone done in each dungeon.
Gonna rephrase it then: this guide is bad, to tell people to reroll their class gives the wrong message, and I have no idea why would wowhead support something like this.The guide itself is useless: it doesnt actually help people to improve their .io, it only gives extremely generic tips, mostly which are offensive. At this rate, it would be better to say: "buy rush, once for every dungeon, and will be 1900+ io the next day"A good guide would be to tell the basics of each dungeon, something like "5 seconds guide", and how to make the most of each role, be it tank, healer, rdps or mdps