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Comment by Kendrubbin

The mission's namesake comes from a term used when gambling, wherein you'll find it is far easier to lose your money than to make more from casinos and the like - thus, the house will always be better off than its patrons in the end.

Comment by Frostbolter

I would save your GR and only buy only one Ghostly Spyglass for this mission. It seemed to either give only a 5% counter bonus compared to the usual 6% (or maybe it was a rounding error). I would have hoped for something > 6% for something that cost 1,000GR.

Regardless, until they pump up the success bonus of this 1,000GR item, only buy the one for this mission.

Comment by sakera

~~I am doing this mission right now and it is costing 0 Oil instead of the 5 Oil shown above.~~

EDIT: Cost information shows as 0 Oil now.

Comment by Addleonge

Failed this mission at 93% and it was gone! I thought missions don't despawn if you fail them.

Unless the duration expired while the mission is in progress......

Comment by Aaahead

I used a Destroyer and Carrier, each of which had equipment to counter 2 added abilities (all except the second Cursed Crew), one with a Pandaren Crew (helpful, I think, on a 2 day mission) and the other with a Draenic Crew (not helpful), and had a 97% chance of success.

Comment by frederickdeer

I have this mission and i am able to counter everything but it still only shows an 89% chance of success? Also I've had ship missions that fail when they show a 100% chance of success and destroyed both ships i had sent. Has anyone else encountered this issue?

Comment by aernath

Highest chance I could get for this mission is %96

With:
The Awakener (Counters both Battleship and Submarine) equipped with True Iron Rudder + Gyroscopic Internal Stabilizer.
Random ship with Undead/Human crew (or if you have Destroyer with Undead/Human crew, match it with a Carrier with Undead/Human crew to increase success chance)
equipped with Ghostly Spyglass + Felsmoke Launcher.

Sending now... Crossing fingers... Hoping for the 2nd Heirloom ring to come...
For Alt'oholism! \o/

Update:
It failed! With %96 chance!
Man... I'm crying, two days of wait for nothing.
Well at least both ships survived, that's something <:b
Also I can confirm it does not proc back rightaway.

Second Update:
It procced again at last, after waiting for it for weeks (literally)
I kept clearing the top right corner of the map (prio) for it to proc and meanwhile strengthened my Armada with more Undead ships.

Now I'm sending:
- Carrier (Undead Crew), Equipped with: Gyroscopic Internal Stabilizer, Ghostly Spyglass
- Destroyer (Undead Crew), Equipped with: True Iron Rudder, Ghostly Spyglass
%98 chance.

But again, crossing the boney fingers of all the Undead in my crews!
This is the highest possible chance that can be get with this mission I think, if there's not an extra Chaotic Whirlpool avoider, there isn't more I can do with this.
I even alternated Gyroscopic Internal Stabilizer and Felsmoke Launcher, chance remains at %98 tops.

But for all this time none of my ships were sunk, even with non-%100 chance missions, so maybe they gained some psychological experience? (I want to think :b)

I even have my upgrade items ready for the ring to work it til level 100.
Let's see what happens, see you all 2 days later!

Last Update:
SUCCESS!
It sure felt like winning the lottery but I can confirm %98 worked!
Still, for not risking it, I suggest double Pandaren crew and a zone buff to make it %100.
Especially if you have a weak heart :b
Well, now all I need is the intellect ring... And Captain title.
Thanks for reading and see you all at the savage seas of Draenor! ^^

PS:
Just noticed, you can't equip 2 Heirloom rings with different stats (like str+agi) at the same time.
Gives an error warning that says "You can only equip 1 item in the Ghost Pirate Ring category"
Adding it as a side note... QQ

Comment by AlexL1118

You won't believe me, but I got 100%.

Fortunately, I had Air Superiority. When I saw that I have this buf on this mission, I started building Carrier-s till I had a Carrier with either Human Crew or Pandaren Crew. Human Crew came first. From long time ago I already had the required Destroyer of epic quality with the Human Crew. Few days of missions on the new Carrier, and it reached epic quality (because I was not lucky enough to get the new ship of epic quality with the proper crew). Then I equipped two Ghostly Spyglass-s and Evasive with First Strike on my two ships. Chaotic Whirlpools was left unbuffed. This means that after investments in the proper crew on my ships, I invested additionally 1000+1000+500+500=3000 Garrison Resources (unless you already have some of these buffing items from missions with Gnomish Crew). Thus three additional bufs (Air Superiority and 2xHuman Crew) provided me 100%.

The only problem - my Air Superiority will finish in 7 hours, while the mission will last for 2 days. Hence I'm not sure that it will stay 100% when the mission will end (though hopefully the game checks percentage at a mission start, and not at a mission end).

If I did not have Air Superiority, then I would create two ships with Pandaren Crew. I doubt that in such case I could reach 100%, but it would still be the most helpful crew in this case.

And of course, if I was thinking about fulfilling bonus mission after I prepared the proper ships, I would have less problems. But the bonus mission came earlier than this one, so I could not predict such situation.

EDIT: When Air Superiority beneath this mission expired (which happened before the mission end), the mission was still displayed as having that bonus, and with success rate 100%. And finally it finished also with 100%. This means that indeed all bufs including bonus area buf are sampled at a mission start, and last till the mission end, even if these bufs disappear outside of the mission.

Comment by Lanik323

With one Undead crew and one Pandaren Crew, and countering all but one Cursed Crew, sat at 99% for this mission. A double Pandaren Crew can likely hit 100% on this mission with no problem.

Comment by Kamboozle

To achieve 100% on this shipyard mission and any of the other two heirloom ring missions (For Hate's Sake and The Wave Mistress), build the following ships:

Destroyer with Pandaren Crew, Ghostly Spyglass and Felsmoke Launcher or True Iron Rudder.

and

Carrier with Pandaren Crew, Ghostly Spyglass and Felsmoke Launcher or True Iron Rudder. (whichever is not on your Destroyer).

Comment by scorpion8125

This is driving me nuts.

This is the ONLY mission I have left for all achievements in the shipyard.

4 months ago, I failed on this mission at 94%.

I have never seen it again. IN FOUR MONTHS!

I have right ships and crews to nail it. My other 6 ships all have Nelf crews, so I knock out all the other missions about as fast as they spawn clearing the board 3-4 times a day.

Should I send a ticket on this?

Comment by Theonaron

I've been waiting for this mission for a couple of months now, then I finally got it on one of my characters, but it failed. I don't know if this is a coincidence, but the day after I suddenly had the mission on 3 other characters.

Comment by Nightpawz

Here's how to get 100% chance.

Dont let the house always win! Most people fail at 94% or even 96% chance.

Keep building Destroyers and Carriers until you get both with a human crew.
(I decommissioned about 6 ships before i had both).
Do missions until they are both to Epic level.

Fit them out like this:

1 Destroyer - with Human Crew, True Iron Rudder, Ghostly Spyglass

1 Carrier - with Human Crew, Felsmoke Launcher, Gyroscopic Internal Stabilizer

This leaves one Cursed Crew not directly covered, but the two Human crews and the Ghostly Spyglass seem to cancel this second Cursed Crew out.
You get 100% chance of success!
Enjoy your ring! :D

Comment by stingray1966

Just put this mission into action today and got 100%. Should get it if it's 100% i hope.

Carrier = Pandaren crew + Ghostly spyglass +Felsmoke Launcher(First Strike)

Destroyer = Undead Crew +Ghostly Spyglass + True Iron Rudder(Evasion)

Comment by Arbatrus

I Have two ships that can make it up to 99% with Air superiority. However, I never win. There are rare times that I have two Air superiorities overlaping in this area (which could potentially bump it to 100%) but never while the quest is available.

The House does indeed always win.

Comment by andirhyme

>>(Do not need to counter: Dense Fog, Stormy Weather, Chaotic Whirlpools)<<

Below is all you need for 100% Chance for all three Heirloom naval ring missions:

(Horde) Undead Crew for both Carrier & Destroyer
(Alliance) Human Crew for both Carrier & Destroyer

Just need to counter:
--First Strike With (Felsmoke Launcher)
--Evasive With (True Iron Rudder)
--Both Carrier and Destroyer for Cursed Crew With (Ghostly Spyglass)

You can equip True Iron Rudder on one ship and Felsmoke Launcher on the other one vice-versa.

Comment by ResoLite

This may have been mentioned before, but you must obtain the Equipment Blueprint: Ghostly Spyglass and turn in the quest for it before the heirloom ring mission will appear. I have been through months of shipyard missions up to now on a handful of alts, but never saw this rare mission until a few days ago after i finally bothered to go pick up the blueprint. Since then the mission has turned up on three alts inside three days.

It's possible that you need to equip the spyglass to a ship for the mission to show up too, not so sure on this though (I equipped a spyglass on one of my ships right after turning in the blueprint quest).

Comment by AJDeBres

I achieved 100% on this without any buffs it takes.

Carrier - Epic (Mine was called "The Jade Wilson")
Human
Ghostly Spyglass
Gyroscopic Internal Stabilizer

Destroyer - Epic (Mine was called "Whisperwind")
Pandaren
True Iron Rudder
Felsmoke Launcher

Good luck.

Comment by Aros

Up until about a month ago I still had never seen any of the heirloom ring missions. I have only one level 100 character but I had done missions with him pretty much every day. By that time I had completed the mission for Left Shark at least six times. I tried to read up on it and there are some various theories on what is required. The main claims seems to be these requirements:

Level 3 shipyard
At least 675 item level on character
At least 675 item level on garrison followers
Equipment blueprint: Ghostly Spyglass

I'm pretty sure I have fulfilled the first three more or less since the patch 6.2 went live. Hard to be sure this long after. But I had not bothered to collect the blueprint. So now I went over to Tanaan, found Captain Ironbeard, killed him and got my blueprint.

Now as any story like this mine is all anecdotal and some will claim it's only RNG at play but the first week after getting the blueprint I got my first mission for an heirloom ring and now I have successfully completed all three of them. I don't know about the first three requirements but I do believe you need the blueprint or the heirloom ring missions won't spawn.

Comment by scr00chy

You can get Air Superiority for this mission by doing The Neutralizer.

Comment by gunsotsu

any tips on how to spawn these ghostly missions? it has been 4 years! i know for the exploration mission achieve there is item you buy with crates from archaelogy. please, for crying out loud how do you get this to spawn.

Comment by Netspook

An addon I'm using (Master Plan, I think) is tracking these quests and lists when they were offered last. This one was offered 727 days ago, that's more than 2 years!

I opened a ticket about it, after a short conversation with a GM, he sent me this, which is pretty much the same as he said in chat:

Hey there!

Thanks for contacting us today, this is Game Master Lavasurk, we had a conversation today in regards of your ticket and it was my pleasure to answer your questions.

As a reminder, I have checked our info about this achievement and this missiona and can't see anything wrong, I'm afraid you just need to keep on doing available missions and wait until the proper one comes. I

If you have any other questions or you need any kind of help, please let us know - we're more than happy to assist :)

Not the GM's fault, but I'm not very happy about the situation...

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The House Always Wins

Location

Description

Although his surprise attacks were legend, Giras the Guileful was just as infamous for his gambling addiction. Even now he's said to enjoy wagering on cards or dice.

Encounters

The Veiled Threat

Snake Eyes

Chaotic Whirlpool

Cost

	Oil

Gains

Upon completion your ship will gain:

8,000 experience

Rewards

Base chance: 30%

	Admiral Taylor's Loyalty Ring

Guides

Warlords of Draenor Shipyard Guide