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Comment by Spring

"To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's Heart I Stab at Thee; For Hate's Sake, I spit my last breath at thee."

-Captain Ahab

Also, Khan.

Comment by aethermind

Perhaps I am mistaken, but I for one find it ridiculous that between Dense Fog and Icy Water this is the only mission of value if you subtract the missions that your faction can't get (I.E. Zangar Sea for Horde). And, of course, Alliance gets the advantage. Not saying it doesn't make sense that this has Dense Fog, but that there really should be an Icy Water equivalent for balance sake.

Comment by vuduchile

I was able to get this mission to 98% utilizing carrier/destroyer, both undead crew and all counters covered besides one cursed crew.

Comment by Mipsen

Lost this mission with 91% :( it will not be up to try again like the loot cache so beware, you will just have to find it again

Comment by iIIumnati

I failed this mission with a 98% success chance.

I used a Carrier (Counters Battleship) with a Human crew (Increases Success Chance)
equipped with both a True Iron Rudder (Counters Evasive) and a Ghostly Spyglass
(Counters Cursed Crew). This ship completely takes care of "The Last Wish" battleship
encounter.

My second ship was a Destroyer (Counters Submarine) with a Human Crew (Increases
Success Chance) equipped with both a Felsmoke Launcher (Counters First Strike) and
a Ghostly Spyglass (Counters Cursed Crew). This ship completely counters the other
ship "The Shiv".

The only thing I could not counter was the Dense Fog, but having two human crew
members gave me the extra success chance bringing me to 98%. I certainly expected
to win with those odds and was very disappointed after waiting 2 days to find out
that wasn't good enough.

Maybe using two Pandaren Crew members would raise the chance to 100% since this
is a "long" mission.

After doing some more looking around I see that a Draenic Crew counters Dense Fog.
Using a Draenic crew member on either of your ships should solve the problem of
100% mission success, allowing you to have any crew member on the other ship. An
elf crew on the other ship (for example) should cut your mission time from 2 days to 1 day.

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Edit: Modified paragraph to no longer say Panda crews "long mission" is greater than 2 days,
thanks to Amatir's reply to my original post. Supposedly a "long mission" is 18 hours or more.

Comment by Tzarynn

I got this mission to 100% using the following ship setup:

The Awakener: equipped with True Iron Rudder and Ghostly Spyglass

For the second ship just use any ship that has Draenic Crew and equip that ship with Felsmoke Launcher and Ghostly Spyglass.

Congratulations on your 100% heirloom ship mission! Enjoy!

Comment by Kamboozle

To achieve 100% on this shipyard mission and any of the other two heirloom ring missions (The Wave Mistress and The House Always Wins), build the following ships:

Destroyer with Pandaren Crew, Ghostly Spyglass and Felsmoke Launcher or True Iron Rudder.

and

Carrier with Pandaren Crew, Ghostly Spyglass and Felsmoke Launcher or True Iron Rudder (whichever is not on your Destroyer).

Comment by zakkaro

How do you get this mission?

Comment by whopants

Its a random mission!

Comment by andreipop

I lost it with 94% ...

Comment by Fose

After spending about 7k worth of Garrison resources on Rush orders and making ships, I finally got a carrier and destroyer with Pandaren Crew and thus making the mission success chance a 100% Thankfully. It's times like these that I wish I was Alliance lol

Comment by Undreadll

After the recent Shipyard changes:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20042694760

"The bonus chance to Mission success provided by Human or Undead crews will be 50% higher."

I was able to achieve 100% with a Destroyer and a Carrier, each with Undead Crew and Ghostly Spyglass, and one with True Iron Rudder and the other with Felsmoke Launcher.

Comment by Bloodisme

for all missions Pandaren Crew is best 100% not dead or human 1 Carrier 1 Destroyer with the right buffs its your win keep in mind if you have 98% doesn't mean you will win

Comment by ontera

Would somebody please tell me why the mission isn't called "Return to Sander"?

Comment by Karma4488

Failed at a 96% chance today. :(

Comment by andirhyme

>>(Do not need to counter: Dense Fog, Stormy Weather, Chaotic Whirlpools)<<

Below is all you need for 100% Chance for all three Heirloom naval ring missions:

(Horde) Undead Crew for both Carrier & Destroyer
(Alliance) Human Crew for both Carrier & Destroyer

Just need to counter:
--First Strike With (Felsmoke Launcher)
--Evasive With (True Iron Rudder)
--Both Carrier and Destroyer for Cursed Crew With (Ghostly Spyglass)

You can equip True Iron Rudder on one ship and Felsmoke Launcher on the other one vice-versa.

Comment by jazounette

I just wonder if I need to clean all the treasure missions every day to have a better chance to get this one, or if it's completely random, and I just have to check the mission table every day to see is the mission is there.

Comment by Aros

Up until about a month ago I still had never seen any of the heirloom ring missions. I have only one level 100 character but I had done missions with him pretty much every day. By that time I had completed the mission for Left Shark at least six times. I tried to read up on it and there are some various theories on what is required. The main claims seems to be these requirements:

Level 3 shipyard
At least 675 item level on character
At least 675 item level on garrison followers
Equipment blueprint: Ghostly Spyglass

I'm pretty sure I have fulfilled the first three more or less since the patch 6.2 went live. Hard to be sure this long after. But I had not bothered to collect the blueprint. So now I went over to Tanaan, found Captain Ironbeard, killed him and got my blueprint.

Now as any story like this mine is all anecdotal and some will claim it's only RNG at play but the first week after getting the blueprint I got my first mission for an heirloom ring and now I have successfully completed all three of them. I don't know about the first three requirements but I do believe you need the blueprint or the heirloom ring missions won't spawn.

Comment by Shadowypain

I achieved 100% on this mission using the following:

Carrier - Draenic Crew - Felsmoke Launcher - Ghostly Spyglass

Destroyer - Human Crew - True Iron Rudder - Ghostly Spyglass

Comment by VreyjaLee

I have been researching this mission since I have been having trouble getting it to pop. After doing all the requirements it takes to open the possibility of receiving this mission, it looks like you need to keep the top right and bottom left corners of the map clear of as many missions as possible, because apparently For Hate's Sake only has a chance of appearing in these two areas if there is room to do so; so if there are already too many missions in these two areas, it most likely won't appear on top of them.

After figuring this out (hopefully) and doing this for a few weeks, it appeared in the top right corner for me. A few of my guild members also followed this and the mission appeared for them soon after too. If there are too many missions in both corners to deal with, I would try to keep the top right clear the most. Because most of the people I know say they have found it in the top right corner, and Wowhead also has its location set in the top right corner. But I have heard of it appearing in the bottom left as well, so I figure better safe than sorry. I hope this might help someone else get this mission to appear for them as well.

So, TLDR, it looks like the more clear the map is of missions in the top right and bottom left corner, the more chances of For Hate's Sake appearing.

Comment by Seffie

is this still available after legion launch? i know the mythic dungeon ones aren't but is this one?

Comment by whquaint

Anyone still trying to get this ring in July 2018, while waiting for BfA? I wish the dang mission would pop. I'm clearing out northeast missions every day. I have all the other heirloom rings, but I'd like to have this Strength ring.

Comment by Crafting137

To get 100% succes chance on all heirloom ring naval missions (as alliance) get the following:
Destroyer - Human crew - Ghostly Spyglass - Felsmoke Launcher
Carrier - Human crew - Ghostly Spyglass - True Iron Rudder

Comment by Shelgeyr70

So disheartened about this mission.
I got the other two fairly shortly after getting my shipyard to level 3 and equipping one of my ships with the Ghostly Spyglass, but for some reason this one just refuses to show up even after months of constantly clearing out the NE portion of the mission map.
I see in the comments that some have gotten this mission within a couple of days after doing Black Market Journal but sadly that didn't happen for me :(

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For Hate's Sake

Location

Description

Vhaka the Vile and her crew once terrorized Draenor's seas, killing and plundering without remorse. Cursed for their evil deeds, they lash out at the living.

Encounters

Dense Fog

The Last Wish

The Shiv

Cost

	Oil

Gains

Upon completion your ship will gain:

8,000 experience

Rewards

Base chance: 30%

	Captain Sander's Returned Band

Guides

Warlords of Draenor Shipyard Guide