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Comment by Kaallis

~~First!~~

It's not mentioned in the description but leather-workers can also create Mail items for Hunters and Shamans.

Comment by 607950

The horde quest Kodo Hide Bag should be added to the LW quest list.
www.wowhead.com/quest=769
It requires 10 skill points in LW to pick up.

Comment by 484852

Probably one of the best professions for a tanking class due to the resistance at current level content, and it will also give same stamina bonuses required for tanking when the resistance in not required.

Comment by 624280

wy did you remove the skil lv info of the database that was realy helpfull to lv profession :(

Comment by ProsperoVII

Will be able to use the Reforging ability on Leather-class equipment in Cataclysm. This will allow you to exchange one group of stats for another. This effectively reducers the different amounts of gear that Blizzard is required to make, and opens new options for min/maxing now that many familiar stats have been removed with the new stat simplification that Cataclysm will bring.

Comment by 119643

It's only good for druid tanking, not all tanking. It only makes leather and mail, not plate. Plate is what most tanks need.

Comment by LeminaAusa

Most of the wrath craftables are BoE, so you can just get someone else to make them. It is perfectly fine for a warrior/pally/dk tank to take this profession.

Not to mention raid drops eventually outclass your craftables, anyway.

Comment by Shaidweaver

Drums of the wild no longer provide the druid buff, but now heal the casters group/raid, and do not affect those level 80 or above. The other profession-specific perk is Master of Anatomy, which grants a bonus to the player's critical strike rating.

Comment by fireball777

The grind from 500ish to 510 is absolutely horrible, there's no new patterns in between those levels so you get to choose between making expensive cloaks that don't sell on the AH very well or take your chances with green-coloured patterns that cost much less but probably won't level you...

Comment by hannibalektr

Our guild rogue was asked to max out his leatherworking, so he tried, but when he bought plans from the dragonmaw he couldnt learn them due to some bug that GM's say they are aware of but won't fix. Meanwhile our guild is being "Penil" ized since we can't get to that resil gear both for rated bg's and for gold.

Why on earth they can't fix something like this is beyond me. If you know of a fix for this let me know, the service techs from India handling the service calls once a month arent helping.

Comment by faythsrequiem

I had bought some patterns in Highbank there in Twilight Highlands, and to my dismay got the same "item can not be found" message. Made a ticket to GM, waited forever but finally logged, still with no response. When I logged back in the next day there was mail in my toons box from GM, in which they'd refunded the heavy savage leather I'd used to buy the paterns, going on to say that I needed to be more careful of my choices on which to spend stuff. Excuse me? Not my fault that I bought new LW patterns to learn which I can't because of a bug Blizzard needs to fix.

Comment by 345746

i also had this problem,the only way around it i found was to check out the mats needed as some are obviously lower lvl ones,when i did talk to a GM he was very helpful,but i also wasnt able to get refund,so...back to the grind! lol

Comment by 144646

Troll'd.

Comment by Torrinforever

For those attempting to get over that last bump to reach 525 leatherworking, while this may not be a good solution, it is at least a good temporary solution...

In Twilight Highlands, near the end of the quest chains, there is a quest called - Blackout - this quest gives you an item called Wyrmhunter Hooks, which can be used in the Obsidium Forest to jump on the back of the drakes flying in the sky. WHEN DOING THIS, you suffer NO DAMAGE unless you get hurt after the drake dies from falling damage. This is a pain free way of farming leather, AS WELL AS Blackened Dragonscales, AND Dragon Flanks used in the new raid cooking feast called Broiled Dragon Feast. Happy hunting, and good luck!

Comment by Nekrotik

Is there really no other way to get from 450 to 465 besides making expensive Wrath epics that no one wants any more? I'd appreciate some help here if I'm missing something.

Comment by Nekrotik

In past expansions the last 15 skill points or so have come from using patterns that drop in instances. It wouldn't surprise me if that's the case with Cata level skill as well.

Comment by 717014

Does anyone have a list of which recipes are bugged or has that been fixed now?

Comment by 723089

The question: How do you get from level 510 to 525 besides crafting "green" "Cloak of Beasts"? We cannot buy patterns in Twilight Highlands. How did you get that last 15 levels? Thanks :) ... I FOUND THE ANSWER: There are patterns at the Twilight Highlands vendor that we can learn now ... good luck.

Comment by xonsuns

So, no one item for Druid resto (only one chest piece with no spirit i presume for balance)...
Feral DPS/rogue, feral Tank, Balance ... it cost too much effort make 1 more piece with spirit and (maybe) haste?

Comment by Dustie

Hi - can anyone tell me where I should go to hunt animals that when skinned will yield rugged leather? Thanks.

Comment by 748448

Why don't the Draconic Embossments show up under the "Required By" tab on Wowhead?

Comment by 717014

I have to say...the only class for which LW will never be a tedious PITA is hunters. I tried to get used to LW on my rogue, I really did, but without Track Beasts it's just a pain. While in higher-level zones the skinnable mobs are clumped together nicely so you don't have to look too hard, I found it tedious and annoying at the lower levels.

Comment by AcantiTheGreat

For this simple prof, i would go onto a newly made DK and learn it along with skinning. Skin some low lev creatures, then make some low lev gear. After I have the right kind of gear, I would make a druid (Or the class that can use the stats) and send it all to him. After that, delete the DK. I done it multiple times before I could easily get heirlooms. Gets you a quick head start on your character, and you wate virtually no money. (If you send your DK's money over, you would even make money by doing this.) This strategy works for virtually any armor crafting prof.
Check other proffessions for mysuggestions on who should have which.

Comment by Ty52

tip for the ones who want to lv this from low lvs, DON´T waste time, when you finally get enough leather (or other mats) for a lv 18 item you´ll be already lv 30+ (specially if you are using heirlooms). so either buy all the leather you need or leave it until higher lvs (maybe 60+), don´t waste trying to get the blues, totally not worth it.

Comment by 803442

I have a question about leatherworking. I am a low lvl 25. I have or thought I have farmed thr ruined leather scrapes to make light leather. It will not let me make Light leather at all. So is ruined leahter scrapes and pelts the same thing? also how do i drop 1 profession to gain another. I am starting to think I need the skinning profession for the ruined scrapes.
As you can tell I an a noob to this

Comment by 803442

nevermind. I figured it out a week later.

Comment by 781447

at low lvl u should just lvl by farming leather and random dungeons. ur LW will easily be kept up and ur gear will be much better then if u were questing. as far as xp, just get tabards from various factions and wear them in dungeons to get it. of course sum quests should be done. i lvl'd my LW this way and it was quick and i was always well geared for when i came across a flag'd alli.

Comment by JumperBaltzer

I have a Hunter Leatherworker that accidently abandoned the questline that will get the guys in Dragonmaw Port to sell me the Cata patterns. I have no idea what questline I abandoned when it turned gray and have been told it was in Azshara. I have done as many quests in Azshara as I can find but still can't find the right questline, can somebody give me a pointer or three? I'm stuck and can't level my Leatherworking without them.

Comment by 805262

How do I get skill over 300? cant seem to train in Org.

Comment by 825907

used to have too go to Outland and train at that level but I'm not sure if that's still the case

Comment by 770391

I really have a problem with leatherworking, especially since Cata. It was tough enough before, but now its BRUTAL! At lvl85 and 500 skill, you have to gain 10 lvls on 2 very expensive and almost unsaleable cloaks. After that it costs you 10 heavy savage leather to buy a pattern (Thats 50 savage leather). It's a whole lot cheaper to buy that lower level resiliance armor at the auction market. Savage leather sells high. I have 2 lvl 85 Hunters on different servers. 1 Alliance gatherer gatherer and 1 Horde skinner leatherworker. My leatherworker is only at lvl 415 and struggling to get higher. Guess which one has the gold? I also started a Worgen Druid leatherworker. He is now lvl 50 and struggling to make leatherworking work. The problem is that with cata it is easier to level up your charater. Consequently your leatherworking can't keep up with the hides you gather. For example, I am now skinning thick leather but all the patterns I have use heavy leather, and I had to get 150 gold off my 85 to buy the light leather off the auction mart to get that high. I haven't played any of the other professions past lvl 80 yet, but I hope they are easier to do than this one. What it amounts to, if you don't have a high powered Alt to bail You out, don't start a character as a leatherworker. Personally, until they straighten these professions out, I would stick with gatherer-gatherer, you'l make way more gold and be able to buy what you need from suckers like me!

Comment by Centaurian

The highest patterns grey out at 540. So where do I get the Super-Grandmaster leatherworking training to go 525/540? I bet the top trainers are held captive in Bastion of Twilight and you have to rescue them before they are sacrificed.

Comment by 671108

One thing that drives me nuts is when I'm advertising my lw, everyone wants the embossing, as far as I can tell, the embosses will only work on be and cannot be done for other toons. If this is wrong please correct me.

Comment by rcitaliano

The problem that ppl were getting in CATA to lvl from 500 to 510 is already solved it some patches ago... they already putted some +3 leveling items so you can easly get from 500 to 510 =)

Comment by Nikeyeia

Leatherworking from 510-525 sucks. You'll have to use 110 Heavy Savage Leather to get up there, roughly 7k gold on my server.

Comment by 428273

I was told there was a sunfury type of pattern that I can get that allows the wearer to look like the outfits they wear..Can anyone confirm this and if so where?

Comment by andipandi

ok im a big noob, how do you actually lvl up your lw, what the hell do you do?.... sad i know... lol

Comment by Ishtenari

For those of you who are wanting to level up; I suggest using this website: Leatherworking Guild 1-525. It's a very good website for leveling any skill. It also has farming guides. Check out their full website: ^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*
Good Luck,
Ishtenari the Explorer

Comment by 936620

how exactly do you get higher skills in leatherworking?
help please..

Comment by crazzzzi

anyone wonder why LW afre the only ones that don't have a 36 slot bag? seems unfair

Comment by 951482

I thought JC and BS were the hardest profs to level but that was until I started leveling leatherworking...this prof is a royal pain to level,a guide is the minimum to have

Comment by Bethenal

The new leather types for Mists of Pandaria:

Magnificent Hide (the rare leather for MoP)
Prismatic Scale
Sha-Touched Leather
Exotic Leather
Heavy Exotic Leather

Edit: The common leather types changed from Tanji Leathers to Sha Leathers in beta build 15650.
Edit 2: Sha Leather Scraps changed to Sha-Touched Leather and Sha Leather and Heavy Leather changed to Exotic Leather and Heavy Exotic Leather

Details correct as at Beta Build 15882

Just putting this in here until this profession has been updated to show the new leathers.

Comment by 940730

It helped me get over the top... don't forget the Darkmoon Faire quest! 5 points right away...

Comment by 998364

Leatherworkingis the best Profession for Rouge , Feral Driuds, Hunters and Mele Dps Shamans.

Comment by Loremastertappa

I think at around level 510 you start needing 10 Heavy Savage leather to purchase more LW recipes. On top of that, all the recipes call for 10 heavy savage leather and usually 10 Volatile fire to make the item. There is a way to get both Savage Leather and Volatile Fire without having to travel much.

Head to Twilight Highlands and to the immediate west of Crushblow is Cannon's Inferno. I would fish in the pools of fire for the Volatile Fire (the enemies can drop it as well but the rate is low.) While waiting for the 15 minute cooldown on the 4 pools, I would skin Worgs and Elk in Highland Forest for Savage Leather.

Since I'm Horde, I use Crushblow for repairs and selling the grey items enemies drop. If you're Alliance, Victor's Point isn't too far.

Good luck with the Leatherworking.

Comment by Sounder

In Mists of Pandaria, you will only need to get to LW skill 500 using Cata mats. Starting at 500 LWs can make Exotic Leather from 5xSha-Touched Leather. The recipe starts orange and greys out at 535. So looking at the guides, it appears I'll only need 505 Savage Leather to skill up a Monk Leatherworker, rather than... 1215.

Comment by Hageny

How much bank does LW make per day if you farm for....8 or so hours, or does it just depend on the server? im wondering how it compares to other professions in the profit aspect

Comment by sylancer

compare to other Profession Perks:

Mining: Toughness (+480 Stamina)
Herbalism: Lifeblood (+480 Haste)
Skinning: Master of Anatomy (+480 Critical Strike)
Tailoring:

Swordguard Embroidery (-180 Critical Strike, Hit or -200 Stamina; +1,000 Attack Power)
Lightweave Embroidery (+320 Intellect)
Darkglow Embroidery (-180 Intellect +750 Spirit)

Leatherworking:

(+320 Strength)
(+320 Agility)
(+320 Intellect)
(-170 Mastery, Dodge; +750 Stamina)

Blacksmithing: Socket Bracer & Socket Gloves (

+320 Strength, Agility, Intellect or
+480 Stamina or
+640 PvP Power, PvP Resilience, Mastery, Critical Strike, Haste, Hit, Expertise, Spirit, Dodge, Parry)

Jewelcrafting: Jeweler's Facet*2 (

+320 Strength, Agility, Intellect, Mastery, Critical Strike, Haste, Hit, Expertise, Spirit, Dodge, Parry or
+480 Stamina or
+640 1/2/3 PvP Power, 1/2/3 PvP Resilience)

Engineering:

Synapse Springs (+320 Strength, Agility, Intellect)
Phase Fingers (+480 Dodge)
Incendiary Fireworks Launcher (Incendiary Fireworks every 45 sec)

Enchanting:

Enchant Ring - Greater Strength (+320 Strength)
Enchant Ring - Greater Agility (+320 Agility)
Enchant Ring - Greater Intellect (+320 Intellect)
Enchant Ring - Greater Stamina (+480 Stamina)

Inscription:

Secret Tiger Fang Inscription (+320 Strength)
Secret Tiger Claw Inscription (+320 Agility)
Secret Crane Wing Inscription (+320 Intellect)
Secret Ox Horn Inscription (+450 Stamina)

Alchemy:

Alchemist's Flask (+320 Strength, Agility or Intellect)
Mixology (

+320 Strength, Agility, Intellect or
+480 Stamina, Spirit)

Comment by sylancer

compare fun Profession Perks:

Tailoring: Frostweave Net (Frostweave Net every 1 min)
Leatherworking:

Drums of Panic (Drums of Panic every 2 min)
Drums of Speed (Drums of Speed every 2 min)

Engineering:

Belt:

Frag Belt (Cobalt Frag Bomb every 1 min)
EMP Generator (Electromagnetic Pulse every 1 min)
Watergliding Jets (Watergliding Jets every 30 sec)
Invisibility Field (Invisibility Field every 3 min)
Mind Amplification Dish (Mind Amplification Dish every 10 min)
Nitro Boosts (Nitro Boosts every 3 min)
Grounded Plasma Shield (Grounded Plasma Shield every 5 min)
Spinal Healing Injector (Spinal Healing Injector, share CD with Portions)
Cardboard Assassin (Cardboard Assassin every 5 min)

Cloak:

Goblin !@#$%^ (Goblin @#$%^& every 5 min)
Flexweave Underlay (Parachute every 1 min)

Alchemy:

Alchemist's Rejuvenation (restore health and mana at same time)
Trinket:

Zen Alchemist Stone (effect of Alchemist's Rejuvenation or Potion of Focus increase by 40%.)

PS: Frostweave Net, Drums of Panic, Drums of Speed, Frag Belt share CD.

PPS: what's wrong with "G l i d e r"? can NOT post this word, odd

Comment by LoneDru

Skinning items that are required for leveling LW from 1 to 600

(as of 02.01.13 in EU-Dreanor-Horde)

57 Ruined Leather Scraps 11,97
15 Medium Hide 79,95
260 Light Leather 306,8
160 Medium Leather 920
20 Heavy Hide 1040
195 Heavy Leather 1267,5
410 Thick Leather 2103,3
410 Rugged Leather 2099,2
100 Knothide Leather Scraps 145
307 Knothide Leather 1872,7
28 Fel Scales 840
320 Borean Leather 880
50 Savage Leather Scraps 126,5
385 Savage Leather 2814,35
21 Heavy Savage Leather 518,07
40 Exotic Leather 64,4
300 Exotic Leather 483

TOTAL 15573 GOLD...

So, think twice before dropping a profession for leveling up LW... :)

Comment by Thrakall

Added in Patch 5.2:

Pattern: Magnificence of Leather World drop - 24h cooldown

Pattern: Magnificence of Scales World drop - 24h cooldown

When using them, you learn new patterns:

Magnificent Hide Pack

s12 pvp sets (ilvl 458 Mail and leather) (like Crafted Dreadful Gladiator's Dragonhide Gloves)

Raid items (ilvl 522)
Quilen Hide Boots
Quilen Hide Helm
Dreadrunner Sabatons
Dreadrunner Helm
Spirit Keeper Footguards
Spirit Keeper Helm
Cloud Serpent Sabatons
Cloud Serpent Helm

Comment by 812686

Approximate Materials Required for 1-600:

57 Ruined Leather Scraps
130 Coarse Thread
15 Medium Hide
75 Salt - vendor
260 Light Leather
160 Medium Leather
197 Fine Thread
31 Gray Dye - vendor
20 Heavy Hide
195 Heavy Leather
410 Thick Leather
145 Silken Thread - vendor
410 Rugged Leather
35 Black Dye - vendor
92 Rune Thread - vendor
100 Knothide Leather Scraps
307 Knothide Leather
28 Fel Scales
320 Borean Leather
50 Savage Leather Scraps
385 Savage Leather
21 Heavy Savage Leather (105 Savage Leather)
2 Volatile Fire
2 Volatile Air
2 Volatile Water
26 Volatile Earth
40 Exotic Leather
300 Exotic Leather or Prismatic Scale. (Choose the cheaper one. You can also use 150 Exotic Leather and 150 Primal Scale for example)
1 Spirit of Harmony

Comment by sylancer

compare fun Profession Perks:

Tailoring: Frostweave Net (Frostweave Net every 1 min)
Leatherworking:

Drums of Panic (Drums of Panic every 2 min)
Drums of Speed (Drums of Speed every 2 min)

Engineering:

Belt:

Frag Belt (Cobalt Frag Bomb every 1 min)
EMP Generator (Electromagnetic Pulse every 1 min)
Watergliding Jets (Watergliding Jets every 30 sec)
Invisibility Field (Invisibility Field every 3 min)
Mind Amplification Dish (Mind Amplification Dish every 10 min)
Nitro Boosts (Nitro Boosts every 3 min)
Grounded Plasma Shield (Grounded Plasma Shield every 5 min)
Spinal Healing Injector (Spinal Healing Injector, share CD with Portions)
Cardboard Assassin (Cardboard Assassin every 5 min)

Cloak:

Goblin !@#$%^ (Goblin @#$%^& every 5 min)
Flexweave Underlay (Parachute every 1 min)

Alchemy:

Alchemist's Rejuvenation (restore health and mana at same time)
Trinket:

Zen Alchemist Stone (effect of Alchemist's Rejuvenation or Potion of Focus increase by 40%.)

PS: Frostweave Net, Drums of Panic, Drums of Speed, Frag Belt share CD.

PPS: what's wrong with "G l i d e r"? can NOT post this word, odd

Comment by Sam97

I think that creators should add some BoE mounts and companions for leatherworking profession .

Comment by QcRoman

My leatherworker wasn't in Pandaria when everyone else landed there. She is one of my alts that has been leveled to 90 only about three months ago.

But

Every day I do my magnificence of leather and every day I craft my hardened magnificent hide and I am still learning crap, outdated, pvp gear patterns. That's despite having spent as many SoH as needed to buy all the patterns she could as soon as her skill and level allowed her to start doing so. And yet I still have patterns I haven't learned yet for the good 553 items like the Snow Lily Belt which would actually help better my gear quite a bit.

With professions perks going away comes WoD, I think this one a day skill learning system needs a revision.

Compared to other crafting professions this one has been one tedious, unrewarding grind that I haven't even been able to get through yet.

...And I thought jewelcrafting was bad when I learned it !

My jewelcrafter in comparison is far from done learning all the possible lower level jewel cuts but at least she was able to learn all the current content, and be done with it quite a bit of time faster than LW, without having to learn all the LK and Cata stuff first.

Comment by spoonman184

A macro for those who would like for automating recipes (scraps). Simply replace "Borean" for your tier of leather.

#showtooltip Borean Leather Scraps
/cast Leatherworking
/run local spell = "Borean Leather"; for i=1,GetNumTradeSkills() do if GetTradeSkillInfo(i)== spell then CloseTradeSkill() DoTradeSkill(i, GetItemCount(spell .. " Scraps")/5) break end end

Comment by Wowgamergirl12

Trying to find all the leatherworking patterns that I can buy. Can anyone give me locations on all the NPCs I can buy them from? I want to have all possible LW patterns.

Thanks

Comment by VijoPlaysOnYT

I just listed up all the Leather you need to get all recipes from the vendors for Leatherworking in WoW (currently Wotlk-Pandaria)
To get the Leather i highly recommend going to the side WoW-Professions.com.

Oh and something to note: I like the idea of being able to craft something once a day and get a recipe from it. I really love it. But how Blizz designed it in the end - not something i would like to see again.

I recorded anything I know (these are ONLY recipes you buy from leather. NO gold, just leather. Nor do you farm any of these, like random world drops giving you special recipes.)

This one's a bit tricky (let's just assume you get 0 drops of Arctic Fur, since it's low anyways.)
36 Recipes* 3 Heavy Borean Leather* 6 Borean Leather= 648 Borean Leather +
10 Recipes* 2 Arctic Fur* 10 Heavy Borean Leather * 6 Borean Leather= 1200 Borean Leather
(Can exchange 10 Heavy for 1 Arctic Fur; You need 6 Borean Leather for 1 Heavy Borean Leather, can't drop, so you need to craft it)
So you need 1848 Borean Leather for all Recipes (ofc there will drop enough Arctic Fur, which makes it much easier + you can buy them very cheap on the AH)
(buyable in Dalaran: Braeg Stoutbeard regardless of faction.)

45 Recipes * 10 Heavy Savage Leather * 5 Savage Leather (you can't farm Heavy ones, so you need 5 Savage ones to craft the Heavy ones)= 2250 Savage Leather (Cata Recipes only!) (buyable at every Leathworking Supply-guy, atleast in the capital cities)

Bought all the Pandarian Recipes with 32 Spirits of Harmony. (You can make 1 Spirit out of 10 Motes.)
Alliance: Tanner Peng
Horde:Krogo Darkhide
(Now to use your Magnificance of Scales/Magnificance of Leather, and Hardened Magnificent Hide)
85 Recipes* 20 Exotic Leather/Prismatic Scales= 1700 Exotic Leather +
83 Recipes* 25 Exotic Leather(2 Magnificent Hides needed, one can be crafted for 50 Exotic Leather, you'll also get one from that one above, so let's say 25/day to keep 'em comin') = 2075 Exotic Leather
Magnificance of Scales and Leather both give the same, so you don't have to worry about it.

Conclusion:
1848 Borean Leather
2250 Savage Leather
3775 Exotic Leather
320 Motes of Harmony

NOTE: Pandarian Ones are DAILY, so i cant say: well max out my leatherworker, no, i have to wait 3 Months to finish it, giving i do it each day.

EDIT: Just made some stuff more clear and removed unnecessary things. :)

Comment by Belzeth

The starting quest item for each crafting profession, skill 600-700, is dropped by Dorogg the Ruthless when doing the quest "The Butcher of Bladespire" at Bladespire Fortress.

Comment by Briandris

Ok I feel like Leatherworker's keep getting the short end of the stick, AGAIN. In MoP we needed 20 pieces of leather to make the daily CD, Magnificent Hide. Engineers and Blacksmith's needed 10 Ghost Iron bars to make their daily CD.

Then came the second tier daily cd, Hardened Magnificent Hide.This required TWO Magnificent Hides to make while Engineer's and Blacksmith's still only required 10 Ghost Iron bars to make their new CD. Their first tier daily CD items were not consumed to make it either. So essentially, Leatherworkers consumed their first tier cd's AND needed two of them to make ONE second tier item. This meant it took two days vs one for other professions and twice the mats as the other professions to craft the second tier item AND we lost the first tier item still required to make useful things like Shadowleather Leg Armor which was still a valuable and required item.

Now comes WoD with Raw Beast Hide. Each profession has it's own "Small profession building" such as Gem Boutique and The Forge and of course, the Tannery.

The Garrison provides a Herb Garden and a Mine as default buildings (meaning everyone gets one without using one of their Medium building plots). These buildings provide enough mats each day to complete work orders for the profession buildings. Leatherworkers and Tailors are somewhat forced to put up a barn in order to get materials to place work orders at the Tannery. If you have Leatherworking but not skinning, you're kinda hooped for materials and forced to buy them from the AH or use one of your 2 medium plots to put up the barn, a choice that Blacksmithing, Engineering, Jewelcrafting, Alchemy and Inscription are not required to make.

Not nice Blizzard. My main's Tannery is just sitting in my garrison taking up space because by the time I discovered this dilemma it was too late. So I guess I spend resources to rebuild, or let it sit there doing nothing until I can level an alt with Skinning.

EDIT: Tailor's get to use Sumptuous Fur so it's only LW's who are hooped.

Comment by Draewind

In WoW professions we now buid items that can rival the raid drop items and are far better than the dungeon drop items. They start small and can be made bigger and bigger. They all are created with what is called a <Random Enchantment>. We even craft items to take another roll at the <Random Enchantment> on the gear. The random enchant includes 2 of the secondary stats (giving us a measurable chance or RNG). Items for the Back (cloak), neck, neck, finger(ring), weapon, and shield, have a greater number of possibilities than other armor items, because they can contain the secondary statistics of Bonus Armor and Spirit (fortunately they do not include the combination of both those statistics ;-).

All of the items have a name in the form of "<ItemName> of the <RandomEnchantComboName>". If you click on the <RandomEnchantComboName> link, it will take you to a chart with all the possible names and combinations. I wish I could add a picture here.

http://compuball.com/forum/WoWRandomEnchantment.png

Examples:
"Steelforged Shield of the Guileful" would have Critical Strike and Bonus Armor as the <Random Enchant>
"Truesteel Breastplate of the Harmonious" would have Mastery and Versatitility as the <Random Enchant>
(I think I threw up a little bit there)

Most Armor Items:
As we see from this graph, the number of possible <Random Enchantments> for most armor items will be 10. So, you have a 1 in 10 (1/10 or 10%) possibility of getting just the mixture of statistics you want.

Cloaks, Necks, Rings, Shields, Weapons:
These items have an additional 2 statisctics added to the normal 4. The added statistics, as mentioned earlier, are Bonus Armor and Spirit (Tank and Healer statistics, respectively). Fortunately there is no combination of both Bonus Armor and Spirit (ever here of teats on a boar hog?)

Only weapon types intended for a healing class will have the possibility of Spirit, and only weapon types intended for a tanking class will have Bonus Armor. Weapons intended for both, will have the same chances as all the jewelry, cloaks, and shields. So if it can be enchanted (by enchanting) or is a shield, it fits in this class of item.

So your chances of getting the perfect necklace with just the right two secondary statistics is 1 in 20 (1/20 or 5%). I am not certain whether Bonus Armor and Spirit have the same chance of being included. If they are given a single chance and then chosen between the two, then your chance for an item with perfect statistics not including Bonus Armor or Spirit would be 1 in 15 (1/15 or 6.67%).

I would list here all the values associated with the <Random Enchantments>, however they vary depending on the slot and material. They also vary with the level of the individual wearing or looking at them.

There you have it. All the possible names and combinations. All items of the same level contain the same amount of statistic, such as "54 Critical Strike" and I have not seen a crafted item with a double a statistic (only one statistic but twice the value).

EDIT: None of content, just spelling and highlighting.

Comment by fenix7

Be Careful!

If you are a Leatherworker, do not buy the plans to build the Tannery at your garrison! Nor the Draenor Leatherworking Recipe!
Just run some dungeons or kill a few mobs at Draenor and soon you will loot the item that starts the Leatherworking quest.
At the end of chain quest you will receive both for free!

Comment by tenn

Want to put your daily recipies on your action bars? I found this useful when using a remote application to access WoW remotely from my phone while on vacation - between this, a garrison mission addon, and parking my characters next to their mission tables, I was able to get through all 3 of their missions and daily recipes in less than 5 minutes.

Burnished Leather:

/run PickupSpell("171391")

Secrets of Draenor Leatherworking:

/run PickupSpell("176089")

These will place the spell icon on your cursor, so that you may place it wherever you'd like on your bars. Note that this can be done for most spells/abilities/recipies - WoWHead can be used to look up the spell ID!

Comment by lankybrit

The single worst profession to level the normal way.

Just save yourself for Draenor and level it there. Raw Beast Hides are easy to come by from Skinning and Trapping. Also, they don't cost much on the AH.

Just level your Leatherworking in Draenor.

Comment by curledlizard

Where it says , don't forget the Monk!

Comment by bigunde

Farming Leather In Nagrand
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNp9zbVX9G4

Comment by bigunde

Leather Farming In Shadowmoon Valley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hwcpnUuPZA

Comment by Blizky

Stuck in level 780? Purchase a pattern for an item level 815 with 3 stars. You can find some belts from Strap Bucklebolt in the underbelly. Also making Burnished Leather could also give 1 point per day.

Comment by Hordearmy

I will lvl LW for one reason which is Elderhorn Riding Harness.

Comment by Justus001

For those that are stuck in Legion LW because Stalriss Dawnrunner will not talk to you (he sells the advanced patterns), but you've completed all the "lesser" patterns, work on getting the mask in Suramar city. This will unlock a quest from the LW trainer is new Dalaran to go talk to Stalriss Dawnrunner.

The quest line to get the mask starts with clicking 6 scrolls and 4 pylons around 30,44 in Suramar.

I fell into this problem on my alt because i leveled up with invasions and didn't bother doing quests. I found the answer by reading a tailoring quest on another toon talking about getting the mask. So i tried it out and sure enough, the quest unlocked!

Comment by dmkl86

I guess Leatherworking for Old Recipes will be forever broken :/
I'm stuck on 186lvl skill and can't get pass it, even if I make items labeled as orange :/ I did submitted a bug but guess it's not that important to loosing ingredients and time collecting them :/

Comment by BlackRain91

Honestly, for Zandalari Leatherworking, the most efficient way of making money is Coarse Leather Barding. Because it only takes Coarse Leather and you can sell the rest of the materials you get from Skinning.

However, I DO think that as a whole the item is very difficult to make money with as you need 25 Coarse Leather; which for a stack of the Coarse Leather Barding you need 500

Comment by Bonamassa

when you look at the age of the comments you can see how useless LW (and other professoins) has become. you can get mats from raids to make way worse gear as that the raids drop. not to speak of the gear you get for free in warfronts and emmisionary chests. please mr. Blizzard: make professions usefull again. or let them go the first aid road.
my main puppet has all but 15 (or so) LW- patterns, so i'm not someone who don't care about then but this is useless. and don't tell me i can make gear for toons: they also get better gear from doing their daily stuff.

Comment by pattersonj

The Shadowlands lw guide link is bad. It links to BFA lw. Just an fyi!

Comment by Ferathnu

Interesting situation here. The Legion trainer for LW says I'm trained in Legion LW, but it shows in my professions tab as Legion Patterns 0/0. But I'm able t take the Skin Deep quest. Same thing for Legion Skinning.
I'm at a loss to explain this. Any help would be appreciated.

Comment by GUSIS

To level up runecarver chest these are the materials u need, to reach rank 4(which is max rank in 9.0.5) :

To reach rank 2

5 x Enchanted Heavy Callous Hide (to create Enchanted Heavy Callous Hide u need 2 x Heavy Callous Hide and 1 x Soul Dust ),
5 x Heavy Callous Hide ,
15 x Heavy Desolate Leather (u also can create them by using 10 x Desolate Leather ) ,
20 Pallid Bone
12 Orboreal Shard (the price of Orboreal Shard depends on Your reputation, at exalted reputation 1 Orboreal Shard costs 100 g at vendor)

You need to craft 15 items to reach rank 2 !

Overall mats needed for to reach rank 2

75 x Enchanted Heavy Callous Hide ( which is 150 x Heavy Callous Hide )
75 x Heavy Callous Hide
225 x Heavy Desolate Leather
300 x Pallid Bone
180 x Orboreal Shard

To reach rank 3

8 x Enchanted Heavy Callous Hide (to create Enchanted Heavy Callous Hide u need 2 x Heavy Callous Hide and 1 x Soul Dust ),
8 x Heavy Callous Hide ,
20 x Heavy Desolate Leather (u also can create them by using 10 x Desolate Leather ) ,
30 Pallid Bone
18 Orboreal Shard (the price of Orboreal Shard depends on Your reputation, at exalted reputation 1 Orboreal Shard costs 100 g at vendor)

You need to craft 15 items to reach rank 3 !

Overall mats needed for to reach rank 3

120 x Enchanted Heavy Callous Hide ( which is 240 x Heavy Callous Hide )
120 x Heavy Callous Hide
300 x Heavy Desolate Leather
450 x Pallid Bone
270 x Orboreal Shard

To reach rank 4

12 x Enchanted Heavy Callous Hide (to create Enchanted Heavy Callous Hide u need 2 x Heavy Callous Hide and 1 x Soul Dust ),
12 x Heavy Callous Hide ,
30 x Heavy Desolate Leather (u also can create them by using 10 x Desolate Leather ) ,
50 Pallid Bone
30 Orboreal Shard (the price of Orboreal Shard depends on Your reputation, at exalted reputation 1 Orboreal Shard costs 100 g at vendor)

You need to craft 15 items to reach rank 4 !

Overall mats needed for to reach rank 4

180 x Enchanted Heavy Callous Hide ( which is 360 x Heavy Callous Hide )
180 x Heavy Callous Hide
450 x Heavy Desolate Leather
750 x Pallid Bone
450 x Orboreal Shard

Overall materials needed to reach rank 4 are

375 x Enchanted Heavy Callous Hide ( which is 750 x Heavy Callous Hide )
375 x Heavy Callous Hide
975 x Heavy Desolate Leather
1500 x Pallid Bone
900 x Orboreal Shard (900 x 100 = 90 000 gold at exalted rep)

This is the most expensive craftable item ever ! If u thinking of buying everything on AH the material costs will scale from 1,5 mil to 2 mil golds to buy all at this time !

Also gathering Heavy Callous Hide is real pain and will take up to 30 h to farm(if not more), because only every 18ish skinned mob will drop 1 x Heavy Callous Hide in patch 9.0.5 (there was a nerf on Heavy Callous Hide in previous patch, before that, every 8ish skinned mob dropped 1 x Heavy Callous Hide ) Happy farming !

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Battle for Azeroth 1-175 Leatherworking Profession Guide - Patch 8.3 Guide to the Garrison Tannery Legion Leatherworking Guide Warlords of Draenor: Leatherworking Overview

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