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What do you think the main problem with MoP is?
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Post by
Rankkor
As someone who left at the beginning of Cata, I have really been dissatisfied with WoW. Currently, I play Rift and I really enjoy it. I play what I like because honestly, I never let other peoples enthusiasm direct my personal taste in games. With that said though, I'm excited about MoP... Being a LONG time fan the Pandaren, there was a desire on my part to play as a Pandaren, especially since I had seen them in Warcraft 3.
MoP for me, is very unique. I love far Eastern Culture. Pandarens are a wonderful change of pace compared to the all steroid using humanoids currently in the game... Humans, Elves... Orcs and Draenei are especially guilty of this....so. Considering this post, I take it I'm not the only one who wishes draenei (much as I
like
'em) were built more like bahmi (and I like
them
, too).
Well, such details as leg structure aside, at any rate.
you can blame Samwise Didier for that. He's the lead artist designer for everything in blizzard, and he seems incapable of drawing men as anything but ÜBERBUFF and women as anything other than barbie-slim.
Lore-wise, Grom hellscream is suppossed to be a slim orc, yet when you look at Samwise's drawing of him, he looks....... well, like
this
Post by
lonewarrior
I won't come back if dungeons take 2 hours to complete and 45 minutes to pop
What did the 2hour runs and 45 minute say about the mindset/ability of the current crop of players that had one segment(those who were capable players) deal with the frustration by not queing and the skills of the other segment unable to fathom an encounter after a wipe or two.
The old phrase "practice makes perfect" is based on sound reasoning. During the last months of Wrath, there was no reason to practice skills and we saw an erosion of abilities that manifested itself at the start of Cata, that only now is has been soften by over gearing.
You now have at least 6 months to a year before MoP is released in which during that time, up and coming players will deal with encounters that will have over geared party members and under tuned fights.
Is there a reason to expect a different outcome for MoP
The only way to avoid this in MoP is to completely under tune the first encounters.
This does seem to be the approach if LFR is any indication.
But that leads to the next debacle, how long can you hold an audience, that has Blizz putting a head on a spike for players to do a hollow victory dance around.
My opinion on what the main problem of MoP...that it will become just a game of appearance, that will lack any true stimuli for those that are not hardcore raiding.
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Post by
FarseerLolotea
you can blame Samwise Didier for that. He's the lead artist designer for everything in blizzard, and he seems incapable of drawing men as anything but ÜBERBUFF and women as anything other than barbie-slim.
Someone
did a decent job on a few of the vanilla models.
My issue with female draenei (read: all of my 85s) isn't as much build as
posture
. They're swaybacked and stand like they're on high heels. While their kinsmen are a bit swaybacked, they're less exaggeratedly so and their legs bend in a more "natural-looking" way.
Not that I don't still
kind
of wish that they were built more like
bahmi chicks
—although, to be honest, a certain contingent of fanboys probably couldn't handle that. (There were "wait, there are
female
bahmi?" jokes at the Rift forum. No, really.)
Lore-wise, Grom hellscream is suppossed to be a slim orc, yet when you look at Samwise's drawing of him, he looks....... well, like
this
I'm pretty sure that's actually by Wei Wang (Glowei),
not
Samwise Didier.
Also, look at his eyes. Grom beefed up quite a bit after taking fel-'roids.
The velen beard option should also be available to male draenei. Either give them real facial hair options besides soul patches, or just prevent them from having facial hair altogether and make it so that their chintacles are their "beards".
*grumbles*Hey, I
like
my boy!anchorite's derpy Fu Manchu 'stache!
But
definitely
more options. Why aren't smoothfases allowed to compensate for their lack of barbels? One would think they'd
want
to.
Post by
Rankkor
My issue with female draenei (read: all of my 85s) isn't as much build as posture.
ugh :S trust me, the horde has it worst in regards to that.
Other than blood elves, EVERY SINGLE HORDE RACE has a pronounced slouch.
Seriously, look at the male orcs, male trolls, male forsaken, male taurens, what do they all have in common? the incapacity of standing up straight.
its why the new model of Thrall is so striking, its the first orc in the entire game to stand up straight. I wish blizz would do something about that and fix the posture of the horde races, because the slouches do HORRORS to their aesthetic.
A warrior looks a lot more badass when he stands straight, than when he looks like he has chronic back pains.
Post by
Adamsm
Trolls need to be hunched over, or they wouldn't fit in anywhere except for Titan Buildings lol; they'd put the Draenei and Tauren to shame.
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Post by
gamerunknown
It reminds me of being in high school in the early 90's when all of the kids where too lazy to look into their own cultural history and then latched on to rap music.
Brief summary of who MoP will not be popular with:
People who think it copied Kung fu Panda.
White nationalists
Post by
Rankkor
Pokemon is just garbage though, as is all of it's clones.
I dunno why so much fuss is being made over something that will play such a small (Read: Non-existent) role in end-game.
Pet battles are exclusively optional, and yield no JP, no VP, no HP, and no CP, therefore are about as useful as a Duel, except at least in duels you (sometimes) get pvp experience for when you do the real thing (And I say sometimes because wow isn't balanced for 1 on 1, thus certain specs tend to be nigh-invulnerable in 1vs1)
Pet battles are little more than a gimmick meant to entertain those who wish to peruse it, and if you loathe it so much, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING will compel you to do it. Its not like it offers epics, or any advantages whatsoever.
It's such an annoyance going everywhere and people who are obsessed with Japanese culture, to an unhealthy level.
I can't posibly see where wow has an overabundance of japanese culture. Pet battles have been around even before than Pokemon (Pokemon was what made them mainstream though)
I should remind you that mexican c0ck-battles are older than dirt, and then there was the roman battles of beast vs beast (Though just as often it was man vs man, or man vs beast) so in wow putting your pet vs the pet of another player has nothing to do with japanese culture.
And pandarens don't count as they are chinese, a completely different culture of its own. As different from japan as england is from the USA.
I for one am not looking forward to being a panda, so I won't be rolling one, I really don't like the idea of them even being in game
well, you just gave yourself the solution, at least you admit that the fix is very easy. I didn't wanted worgens to join the game either, but I managed, I still made one to experience their starting zone, but after lvl 22 I deleted it. Same thing will happen to the pandaren, I'll make one, complete their starting zone, and delete.
As for those saying "Everyone will be a panda" that's a gross exageration, they said the same about the worgens, and yet =O Humans are still the most played alliance race. I've taken a stroll on stormwind and seen more humans than the rest of the alliance races put together, and while pugging while I've had many partys where just about everyone but me (Night elf) was human, I've yet to have a party where everyone but me is worgen.
Pandas, as a novelty will be insanely popular at first, once the novelty wears off (and it WILL wear off) you'll see them decrease in numbers exponentially.
Monks on the other hand............... ye, I do foresee them remaining popular during the entire duration of MoP (Much like how DKs remained the most played class during all of WOTLK)
Post by
FarseerLolotea
on a side note haw does female panda look like........No one knows yet.
But after female worgen ended up looking...well, less like savage werewolves than like Wile E. Coyote infected a Disney princess with lycanthropy? At least
some
people are concerned.
Post by
Adamsm
I'm still hoping the only difference between the male and females will just be a little bit of a body change, or ear bows lol.
Post by
Rankkor
I'm still hoping the only difference between the male and females will just be a little bit of a body change, or ear bows lol.
going from what we've seen before, I'm not so optimistic.
Post by
Adamsm
I'm still hoping the only difference between the male and females will just be a little bit of a body change, or ear bows lol.
going from what we've seen before, I'm not so optimistic.
Eh, Tauren and Dwarf females say it could happen.
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Post by
gamerunknown
It's a game, not validation.
Well, why do you play this game and not others? I support egalitarianism wherever possible, but I'm forced to accept that if everyone had the same gear, titles, mounts and whatnot, nobody would play. Even if the difference is merely that those with fewer mounts played less in a week, that's the fundamental drive for most people: get the number higher, get the shiny thing (and usually, only if that makes me better than the next man).
That said, there's no need for elitist opposition to the LFR for instance and its worth pointing out that video games are a form of
social control
.
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Post by
FarseerLolotea
We all know they'll have double d's and will be shaped like an hourglass, tho, I'm just hoping they're like female dwarves and not female blood elves. Either way, I demand good looking pandaren women, but not as sexy as female worgen/female draenei/female night elves.Yeah, I'm pretty sure they'll be curvy, which is fine. I just hope they're
hefty
-curvy and match up with the males.
Then again, an artist did an analysis of every playable race model in the game. She found out that any given race—including ultra-dimorphic ones like draenei—will have basically the same proportions in terms of leg/torso/head length, and will have hips the same size. So it's likely that the same will be true of pandaren.
And makeup is okay, as long as it's an
option
. (Seriously, that's one of the things that bugs me about female worgen: they
all
have eyeshadow.)
They took way too long with female worgen, honestly, despite me liking the finalized female worgen model, they should've just stuck with the alpha one, and then cataclysm would've no doubt come out sooner. And of course, female worgen would have way more facial and hair options, eye colors, and probably no model bugs like they were on release.Yeah, the late-alpha/early-beta (a slight variation on the very first one shown to the public) female worgen was a lot less buggy and had distinct idle expressions (everything from "hi, I'm a resto druid" to "grrr, I'm a fury warrior"). The wig hair was incongruous, but that was my only real complaint.
They're never gonna make a race that can be neutral to both sides, they'd have no ability to pvp in any way shape or form.Not necessarily. Flagging could "arena-flag" them.
BGs, however, would be difficult to figure out.
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