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Patty
What spells are you primarily using - What type of content are you raiding? Normal or Hard-modes? What is your typical raid setup like?
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Patty
If you don't get any, or not a lot of, use from GH, try a build like
this.
If you want Body and Soul, you can always pop the points from Blessed Resilience into B&S and Inner Focus if you want.
Bear in mind this is a primary raid-healing based build, and I've not played Holy for quite some time. Just give it a go if you want! :)
If you use Flash heal enough to justify putting points into empowered healing, then take them out of blessed resilience and maybe Spell warding, if you can afford to. These are there as filler talents. :)
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Post by
karlusdavius
Your problem?
1 point in SoL
1 point in Test of faith
1 point in Holy Reach
Max those out and test it. You should find your numbers go up. Take all the points out of improved healing. really not worth any points.
Post by
OscarDivine
What you're doing wrong is worrying about the charts. Worry about keeping people alive.
Mostly this.
But even still, you've only got 1 point into
Test of Faith
. It's a huge talent for holy priests. Almost all raid damage in and beyond Ulduar takes everybody at or below 50%.
As well, the only thing I can say to you that might improve your actual performance as a player would be to make good choices for each healing spell used. Always keep a Prayer of Mending dinginginginging around, make copious use of hasted PoH (using serendipity, don't ALWAYS wait for 3 stacks!) and Throw your CoH out as often as is needed. Otherwise... Just heal. Your performance might not be on par with other players because you might just not be a priest healer at heart. *shrug* that I can't change.
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cohut
Topping Healingcharts as holypriest is way easy. First you make sure you have FH, Renew and Guardian Spirit glyphs. Then, whenever CoH is off CD, cast it, same with PoM. if somebody looses hp - renew, and whenever you're not busy casting any of those, cast of some flash heals to stack serendipity. when it's stacked to 3, cast of a greater heal. If surge of light procs, just throw it of at first one you see loose some hp, if its almost about to go away and you got noone to throw it on, throw it on yourself or a random one to stack serendipity
And NEVER EVER use shield. Without any of the buffs from disc it's useless and the mana should be used for something else. Also, it iritates discpriests ALOT.
Your build looks good to me, but you should really max test of faith and surge of light. Personally I'd take the points from holy reach and Healing prayers.
and remember. unless your crit is way low, a CoH will proc Surge of Light 95% of the times.
I very rarely uses PoH when healing as holy, CoH and a couple of renews is much more beneficial in my opinion.
conclusion: CoH > PoM = FH(if SoL) > Renew = FH(0-2 serendipity) = GH(3 serendipity) > FH (3 serendipity). This might be situational ofc. Only thing you should be overhealing with is renew and possible CoH. Don't be afraid to cancel Heals if you see it will overheal. And when you know there will be aoe to the raid, or someone will be damaged, might aswell use renew on them before the aoe comes and be ready to pop of CoH before some other class or priest use aoeheals on them.(if you wanna top charts that is) to top the charts you need to be faster then everybody else, although keeping renew on everybody works aswell, but it's not recommended. not very manaefficient.
Edit: 1300 hours CET.
This is what works best in my guild and my raids. Alot of good healers there and they are very fast on heals, meaning i either have to have have a tick from renew + a flash heal/coh almost instantly after the hp is lost to not overheal. I'm guessing if you have alot of good healers Overhealing might be your problem.
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karlusdavius
fancy reasoning out how using a few renews is better than a Hasted PoH? because that's throwing me a little..
To the OP,
Here
is a basic holy build for high end content. You have 4 points to put into any talents you wish. My advice would be (if you haven't already) to get your haste up to or around 20%. Once you have this benchmark, your flash heals become under 1.2 seconds in cast time in a raid environment. In this case, i would max out Blessed Resi and put one point into Empowered Healing. That's a 7% increase to flash heal while also increasing everything else you cast healing wise by 3%.
You should end up like
this
.
For gem choices, use
Reckless Ametrine
for your yellow and red sockets (and your blue sockets except for one, when you need to activate your meta) until you hit
20% haste. Once you start getting more haste gear you can switch to straight spell power gems.
Healers as you know don't have a rotation.
Always Use PoM (the Addon, PoM Tracker is good to follow it's pings)
Always Use CoH when you see 3 or 4 targets in a defecit, while it is a smart heal, remember that some of those targets could be out of range.
Always try to have at least 2 serendipity stacks (this should be easy when you have maxed out
SoL
Use PoH when you see a group low. It is better than renew!
If you have the haste rating, and 3 Serendipity stacks, even thought you won;t be talented for it, your greater heal will cast in around 1.6 seconds. If you like Greater Heal, replace Spell Warding with Divine Fury, thats a 1.1 second cast on a big 11k heal.
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cohut
Hey Cohut,
the glyphs are not in line with the spells ?
glyph FH & Renew but your spells are CoH >PoM. Why not glyph them instead ?
CoH got a cooldown, and its situational, I use CoH for proccing SoL + an extra instant heal if less than 2-3 people are taking damage, meaning the +1 target for CoH is a total waste. Renew Glyph makes your empower renew and ticks higher. If you don't like to use renew, sure go CoH or PoH instead. But i find renew alot more beneficial and i prefer renew as a spell :) popping renews on party members loosing some hp cause them to be "automaticly" healed for the remainer of the renew incase he gets more damage.
PoM cant be glyphed, so thats fine.
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it's a matter of preference tbh :) I do enjoy tankhealing alot, and my CoH usualy heals the tank + some melee's. so renew is up all the time. and i use renew paired with CoH. I even count seconds for ticks on Renew :)
Or not anymore though, i respecced disc since our former discpriest stopped playing :p so now im just stacking DA and keeping up inspiration / Renewed hope :)
I'm not a fond of PoH, spell nor glyph tbh, but also a matter of preference. To me PoH is to much mana compared to healing + to long casttime, and when i got serendipity stacked I'll rather cast a GH than a PoH. Still preference though :)
Post by
rainkeltoia
Holy priest = awesome raid heals. I've been running Disc for my guild but went holy the whole way. part of your "problem" may be lack of experience. I've been healing for 80 levels lol and learning when to use what spells takes time and practice. There's no "rotation" per se, but like others have said yes POM and COH on cooldown. Renew if you're specced and glyphed for it.
Raids don't need Body and Soul so I wouldn't suggest it. Also yes I'd say the 2nd point in SoL it procs a lot esp if your crit is decent, and for TOC 25 I believe its suggested to be around 30% holy crit (which is pretty easily obtainably through gear)
Are you using Greater Heal Lesser Heal Divine hymn often? If you are you shouldn't be and you don't need the points in Improved Healing, you can move them around heck even put a couple in healing focus instead, and move the 5 from divine fury over to spell warding. Max Holy reach and you can put a 2nd point in Test of Faith to help on low targets.
Just keep at trying I'm sure you'll do fine. You won't "top" a good druid, but Holy priests are top of their class when they are healing correctly as you're a large AOE healer with great flexibility. :D
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