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Zxian
I'm not going to link any armory specs because I don't want to point the world at this, but I'd like some advice on how to deal with this.
I've recently been promoted to an officer in my guild (on my main, a rogue), and my DK has been put into the "10 man ready" rank as a tank. I've run Naxx10 (or part of it at least) with another DK tank, who's got the following build:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#j0xGZhgbthMhkchisku0xG:oRwV
Anyone who's done any sort of serious tanking can see the problems there. This is
not
a question about what spec would be better (there are a few key talents that are simply missing), but rather, how do I deal with this guy? I'm he's often the MT because he's done the tanking in Naxx than I have, but he has a really hard time holding threat from the dps, let alone me (when I'm mostly just auto-attacking with the occasional IT and PS).
I don't want to flex my new guild rank to sound like a jackass, but when I've suggested that he fix a few key points in his spec - he's simply ignored me. On Heigan, our boomkin was starting to pull threat and was having to hold back (along with several other dps). Over vent, I hear "Switch to unholy so you're not stealing my threat".
Any suggestions?
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Afoxi
Wow, a guy like that is tanking Naxx? What the hell am I doing and why have i not started raiding? >_<
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Wildhorn
Trying to be nice with idiots always lead idiots to run the place. Better to show them that they are stupid before its too late.
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Zxian
Thanks for the advice people. I'll try to have a civil word with him about this next time I see him online.
Hopefully he will listen to the voice of reason when not stressed about holding aggro. =P
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Dunken
do what i do, call him a ^&*!ing retard and tell him to %^&*ing change specc or guild. worked fine untill i got demoted.... twice...
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Zxian
The main question is what do the other officers think? You will need at least some of them to back you up if he decides to make an issue of it.
We're a relatively small guild at the moment (only 25-30 active members at the moment) and there are only 4 people who are officers. One of them has been a pally tank since way-back-when, and has toyed with DK tanking as well. I've definitely got his support on the matter, talking to him in-game and on MSN. The other two officers are only occasionally online, and one of them has no clue about tanking (but would likely support my case - he was having to hold back on his spriest the other night).
P.S. If you want to be officer of successful guild, you can not be nice to people. Simple example from my yesterday's raid - we are on General Verzax. People keep getting mark and not running out of raid, 1 druid healer is being seen not running out 2 times in a row. 3rd time he does the same, he's getting kicked out of raid and guild. Next attempt general dies.
Honestly, I find that kind of attitude towards people reserved for the "elitist" raiding guilds, which is not what we're trying to be. Like I mentioned, we're a relatively small guild, and we'd prefer to find some people to have consistent raids with. If people are willing to learn the fights and stick around, we're happy. If the person in question doesn't fix what he's doing, he'll likely be prevented from doing any serious tanking, but I don't think we'll gkick him because of it.
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Post by
twinkinshammy
....................................................................................................................... I honestly don't know where to begin in how bad that spec is...IT'S awful for tanking. unholy command is useless first of all for tanking you won't need it that often that you have to reduce it's cooldown.
GET HUNGERING COLD it's forst DK oh !@%$ button for 10 person 10sec CC.
Finish putting points in Tundra stalker as he (hopefully) will be infecting everyone he can wih frost fever be it Glyph of howling blast, Hungerin cold or just plain Icy touch.
Move points from Frigid Dreadplate to Glacier rot.
Kill scent of blood to finish Black ice.
Kill Blade barrier and switch them to Butchery for extra ruinic power and Subversion for extra damage from obliterate
You know what it's eaiser just to link a spec he does so much wrong. Tell him this
4/67/0
follow the glyphs too.
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