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PessimiStick
Ret just sucks on this fight (compared to Warr/Rogue/DK/Feral/etc.), there's not really much you can do to change that.
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PessimiStick
An odd twist to this topic. I know i was asking about ret but my guild has asked me since im tank OS to start to build block gear atm i have 2630 block value and 104% avoidence so i was wondering if any one could tell me how mutch value i need to be an affective block tank cheers
I
highly
doubt that you're unhittable, given the gear you have on in your armory at the moment.
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PessimiStick
Srz passim that is not the qesion i asked and the stats i have giving is correct as far as i know. thank you for your opinyon though.You do know Holy Shield doesn't count, right?
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Sgtpain
5,000 dps sounds about right for your gear. I don't see 7-8k happening in any fight that you don't get a damage buff from the encounter with that gear.
Anub will pretty much give you your real dps. If you have 5 stacks of vengeance up, that's about it.
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Sgtpain
There is no set block value for anything, really. If your gear is good enough, the block value will be there naturally. As with alot of fights in 10 and 25 man ToC, it's usually an issue of stam and armor, simply because there is alot of unavoidable damage. (Ferocious Butt, bleeds from impale, stacking DoTs...)
If we could see your tanking gear, that would allow us to determine whether you should be able to or not. No way to tell basing it strictly off of block value.
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PessimiStick
Block
Chance
!= Block
Value
Being unhittable matters. Your actual BV matters little, since the gearset required to make you unhittable to begin with is so specific that you don't have much leeway in any case.
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Sgtpain
Normaly i would agree with you but this fight is difrent there is a maths to how mutch block value needed for this fight and has nothing to do with the gear you have unfortanitly. There is evin a set to collect from all over the place including t7 content.
Where did you hear there was math for determining whether your block value was high enough for this fight?
I have almost no block value gear currently, and my block is higher than if I were to try and put block value pieces together. Strength plays a pretty big roll on adding to block. I believe how muich you get from strength has increased substantially.
Here is my armory. I clear 10 man ToC, 25 man ToC on a single night, and, we have downed all but anub in 10 man Heroic ToC. Been downing beasts and Jeraxxus for a few weeks now, and only recently got a drop from there. grrrr
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Shu%27halo&n=Wingnut
We cleared 10 man ToC without too much trouble and I was wearing Mostly 226 with a couple pieces of 232, and I think only one of my pieces, the legs, had block value on them. So, I really don't believe that it's true that you need a certain block value.
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Sgtpain
We cleared 10 man ToC without too much trouble and I was wearing Mostly 226 with a couple pieces of 232, and I think only one of my pieces, the legs, had block value on them. So, I really don't believe that it's true that you need a certain block value.
It doesnt matter what you believe, the gear you are supposed to use on anub 25 heroic adds are items like
http://www.wowhead.com/?profile=18048149
, its all about reaching 101.6% "avoidance" raidbuffed while stacking block value. (It's not a bad thing to have a low Max-HP on this fight cus anub drains 30% of your current HP every second.)
So feral druids can't tank adds on 25 heroic?
BTW, I apoligize. I didn't see it was for 25 heroic to begin with. I was thinking it was reg 25, which we have on farm, so that's why it didn't make any sense to me. :/
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PessimiStick
If you're single tanking, Warrior or Paladin only.
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