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Post by
MischievousLoki
As far as threat goes, accuracy is best.
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Doesn't that graph show Bezerk being the best for threat? And then the summary states Accuracy is the best. I'm confused (and too lazy to read the 10 extra pages after it).
If you are under hit cap, which is better?
Berserk lowers your armor by 5%. Bad for tanking.
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Post by
Solace
i use the Blade ward from the day my serve got drop for it, i can say that i love i do see it proc alot and also getin stuck up to 5 times (when that happen my parry goes up to 30%) the thing is u need to have low parry and high dodge to see it very affecting. in boss fight i can see it proc atlest up to five time depend on how long the fight is.
for me mongooes is not that effective cause of the DR i only gain 2.5% when it is proc. while when blade proc i get 3.5% (for first stuck).
so do think blade ward is a good enchant for a Tank.
Bloodkitte hit it right on the head about blade ward,
thing is u need to have low parry and high dodge to see it very affecting.
This shouldn't be a problem if you are currently gearing your prot paly correctly.
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Post by
nyctric
As far as threat goes, accuracy is best.
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Doesn't that graph show Bezerk being the best for threat? And then the summary states Accuracy is the best. I'm confused (and too lazy to read the 10 extra pages after it).
If you are under hit cap, which is better for threat?
Uh, yeah, Berserking is a great TANK enchant for threat, I'm surprised why I haven't seen any tank with that enchant so far ... personally, Accuracy for my threat set on a weapon like Titanguard and 26 Agil or Blood Draining on a weapon like Stoneguard.
Post by
Sokur
Considering that Berserking lowers your Armor by 25% you won't see me using it to tank. I still use Mongoose, 15 seconds every minute with increased dodge, armor & crit (avoidance, mitigation & threat) still isn't a bad thing. The problem I see with Blood Draining is that it does conflict with Ardent Defender.
Post by
Chocodave
I think I must have missed a post (or entire thread o.O ?) somewhere... Constantly hiding wowhead from management while supposedly working does this to you!
Can anyone explain the problems that Blood Draining has along side Ardent Defender please?
The maths I saw comparing Blood Draining with Blade Ward seemed to show that the former was preferable, but now I'm just greatly confused (i will source this "maths" and edit accordingly in my own time!)
Cheers in advance!
Post by
Decimater
I think I must have missed a post (or entire thread o.O ?) somewhere... Constantly hiding wowhead from management while supposedly working does this to you!
Can anyone explain the problems that Blood Draining has along side Ardent Defender please?
The maths I saw comparing Blood Draining with Blade Ward seemed to show that the former was preferable, but now I'm just greatly confused (i will source this "maths" and edit accordingly in my own time!)
Cheers in advance!
The gist of it is that if damage puts you below 30% health, and the blood draining triggers and puts you back above, ardent defender won't have a chance to prevent any damage on the next attack.
In my opinion it's a fairly rare case that blood draining would cause death, but because that the case exists people discount the enchant as useful for pallies. When 3.2 changes ardent defender, blood draining won't conflict with it anymore and it will be awesome. Until then I still prefer the idea of getting the extra heals when I'm in low health. Let's face it, if you're staying around 30% health for any extended amount of time the healers must be snoozing.
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Chocodave
Ah ha! Thank you Decimater... Put like that it's stupidly obvious!
Hmmm, now I just need to read through the 3.2 patch notes properly and L2Read :(
Post by
zoomie
I had Blade Warding for awhile on the Red Sword of Courage; I must say I was disappointed in it. More often than not I would hit 2 stacks and then watch it get "eaten" by the damage proc.
What do you mean it gets eaten by the damage proc? Do you mean you parry and the damage goes off? Sounds to me like the enchant is working... Whats the point of stacking up a ton of parry rating and not wanting to parry?
Believe me its much worse seeing it stack up 2 or 3 times, or even 4 in my case (screenshots to prove it) and just watch it fall off without a single parry.
Post by
Bloodkittie
now in patch 3.2. Blade ward will give u more value of % in avoidance due to the changes that blizzard is doing to parry, dodge and agi so it will make even more parry. and what u r gaining today from using mongoose will be less avoidance cause of the same reason...
And please stop saying 'stuck' instead of 'stack'. You're driving me crazy.
hehe... i will try it won't be easy but i will try...
Post by
xaratherus
I had Blade Warding for awhile on the Red Sword of Courage; I must say I was disappointed in it. More often than not I would hit 2 stacks and then watch it get "eaten" by the damage proc.
What do you mean it gets eaten by the damage proc? Do you mean you parry and the damage goes off? Sounds to me like the enchant is working... Whats the point of stacking up a ton of parry rating and not wanting to parry?
Believe me its much worse seeing it stack up 2 or 3 times, or even 4 in my case (screenshots to prove it) and just watch it fall off without a single parry.
No, I mean that as a tanking enchant the parry rating is far more worth it than the small bit of damage it does on the parry. It's sort of like Reckoning in that if you have an okay parry rating to begin with - something you'll likely acquire as your gear gets better, whether you're shooting for it or not - then you lose effectiveness of the "tanking" portion of this enchant.
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