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Observations on Mage leveling... or The thinkers class...
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Post by
Goyoma
I didn't read much after the first few novels up there, but I find it incredulous that people think a Mage is difficult to play in PvE.
My Mage just hit 80, and he's my first and only character in WoW. I had absolutely no problems pulling mobs and not dying a million times. I only started dying when I got c o c k y. (really now?)
If you want to plan out pulls, AoE grind. Now that's fun.
Post by
Skyfire
I don't know why people are raising mana while levelling as an issue. As a % of base mana, you can cast the same number of Fireballs on a full mana pool irrespective of what level you are assuming that you've stripped butt naked and aren't levelling your gear at the same time.
It's a drain on the mental state to go "2 mobs, drink/eat, 2 mobs, drink/eat", so on and so forth. Even so, levelling is amazingly tuned.
Shamans get to heal, fair enough. But last night (note, my mage just dinged 49 shortly after), I charged into a pack of 3 oozes, ran along to get a couple more for a total of 5, frost nova'd them in place and blizzarded them down. It's not really any different to what I'd do on my Prot Paladin, except that at 80, I'd get about 2 or 3 times as many mobs.
I'm not sure how this enters into the conversation as a relevant point...
If you're going one by one, you're not going to be pulling mobs on the side, because you'll be methodically clearing on route to where you want to go.
Not necessarily. The most efficient at leveling might "methodically clear on route", but I would venture that this is clearly a case where we aren't dealing with the most efficient.
If you're going AoE, then you won't care, as you grab everything in an area.
Which areas? Ah ha! You still prove my point: even an AoE grinder has to consider, long before he commits to a specific grinding set, that there may exist ranged mobs. It's an additional item of complexity.
Melee classes have more OH$#!7 buttons, but they are also more likely to overaggro, on account of the fact that they *have* to get up and dirty with a pull.
Paladins are the only one who need be concerned about being excessively careful about their pull, lacking a ranged pull (or they don't, since BC?), and we already established that they could afk and not die.
If you need to deal with multiple mobs, and you use your AoE abilities and your frost nova. I don't see why it's so hard.
That's assuming you go in with the intent of AoEing... it's a waste of mana to AoE anything between 1 and about 4 mobs if your intention was not to AoE.
Post by
Squishalot
I'm not sure how this enters into the conversation as a relevant point...
It enters, as the point that I really didn't care what mobs were around. I played my Mage no differently from the way I play my Warrior alt, or my Paladin main. The idea in this thread is that Mages need to be played 'specially', and it requires more thought. I don't necessarily think so.
(N.B. The issue I've found with a Mage that I bemoan is the fact that I can't take out significantly higher level mobs, due to the spell resistance inherent with attacking something 5-7 levels higher than you. Healing/melee hybrid classes can sortof tank their way through it. But that's an issue that all casters have, not just Mages.)
Which areas? Ah ha! You still prove my point: even an AoE grinder has to consider, long before he commits to a specific grinding set, that there may exist ranged mobs. It's an additional item of complexity.
Again, it's no different compared to any other AoE grinder. If you're grinding on a Paladin, or grinding on a Warrior, or a DK, or a Druid, you're going to be concerned about the same issues. It's your strategy that demands the complexity, not the class.
That's assuming you go in with the intent of AoEing... it's a waste of mana to AoE anything between 1 and about 4 mobs if your intention was not to AoE.
It's a waste of a cooldown to bubble/heal too, and at lower levels (<40) before a Paladin gets Judgements of the Just, he's going to be on zero mana after a bad pull as well.
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