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Noxxic is missing abomination"s might in their build (very good debate)
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Post by
DraconisAerius
I'm actually specd into this right now specifically because we don't have a pally in our raid group. That's the only reason I'd even consider it, unless I was having threat issues, which never happens.
Post by
JASP01
Question here... I have it strictly for the 2% str.... Viable/worth it? I'm trying to crank out the highest DPS numbers I can while tanking.
Post by
Orranis
Question here... I have it strictly for the 2% str.... Viable/worth it? I'm trying to crank out the highest DPS numbers I can while tanking.
Depends what you're giving up. Blood does have a lot of filler points so you have a lot to work with.
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JASP01
Question here... I have it strictly for the 2% str.... Viable/worth it? I'm trying to crank out the highest DPS numbers I can while tanking.
Depends what you're giving up. Blood does have a lot of filler points so you have a lot to work with.
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/silver-hand/Doomsworn/advanced
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/silver-hand/Doomsworn/talent/secondary
Post by
Orranis
Lichborne isn't strictly necessary but it's nice to have, and I'd definitely recommend it further into the tier. I'd still rather have it. What Heroics are you doing specifically, and what is your groups average DPS looking like?
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JASP01
Lichborne isn't strictly necessary but it's nice to have, and I'd definitely recommend it further into the tier. I'd still rather have it. What Heroics are you doing specifically, and what is your groups average DPS looking like?
I did have Lichborne before, but I found it competed with Rune Strike too much, and I didn't have any healing issues at all. I can rely on my healers.
We're going to attempt H Yor'sahj soon... Our DPS kinda sucks (too much of my progression knows their class well, but not well enough-- they don't keep up on forums like I do, sadly). It could just be better. So personally I want to crank out as much as I can.
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DraconisAerius
Lichbourne honestly doesn't get as much use from me as it should, I can see it being brilliant on H Yor as long as it doesn't add stacks on Purple? And H Hag for focused assult since it's instant casts you can hit it on the move. In fact practically any time where you don't need damage reduction but more healing would be good, like Zon black phase or towards the end on Ultrax. So yeah, Lichbourne is a big bonus to have when pushing heroics. But then again if your healers are good but your dps are not giving it up is fine.
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Orranis
With the 20% nerf Yor'sahj's enrage timer really shouldn't be a problem, it's more about AoEing the adds quickly and efficiently and healing throughput, the first of which your specific Blood spec really won't make a difference on (even Crimson Scourge, Blood Boil hits like a wet noodle) and the second of which is much more likely to be helped out through a survivability build than a DPS build.
If you're one tanking you should probably go for more survivability if you're not one tanking you probably should be if you're worried about DPS.
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DraconisAerius
If he states (which he did) that his group has weak dps, then even with the 20% nerf they might struggle on the Enrage timer. And back to my question, does lichbourne/death coil healing add stacks in purple phase?
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Problimatic
I only have Abominations Might, because I needed to replace two points when I got rid of Blood Parasites for Kael solos, and have yet to put them back. For your "standard" tanking build, I do not see this talent as mandatory, as there are better ways to spend the two points.
You can kill kael with Bloodworms..... I solo'd him every week for it with it talented til I got my ashes and still do kael weekly simply because its a simple 300gold looted for virtually no work.
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Orranis
If he states (which he did) that his group has weak dps, then even with the 20% nerf they might struggle on the Enrage timer. And back to my question, does lichbourne/death coil healing add stacks in purple phase?
I'm still not sure how weak we're talking about. If they can't kill the boss in the enrage timer I think you have bigger problems to worry about than your output as Blood... Unless you're two tanking it in which case go for survivability and gain the DPS through having one less tank and one more DPS. The DPS issue on that fight is going to be getting the adds down more than anything, after that it's a healer/tank check.
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DraconisAerius
And back to my question, does lichbourne/death coil healing add stacks in purple phase?
Post by
Orranis
And back to my question, does lichbourne/death coil healing add stacks in purple phase?
I'm pretty sure it doesn't. Maybe try it on an attempt you think you're going to wipe anyways to make sure.
Post by
JASP01
And back to my question, does lichbourne/death coil healing add stacks in purple phase?
I'm pretty sure it doesn't. Maybe try it on an attempt you think you're going to wipe anyways to make sure.
From what I've heard, -no- form of tank self-healing does. Frenzied Regen does not make it stack. Rune Tap doesn't. Death Strike doesn't. Death Pact doesn't. So I'm pretty sure Death Coil doesn't as well.
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Zakkhar
And back to my question, does lichbourne/death coil healing add stacks in purple phase?
I'm pretty sure it doesn't. Maybe try it on an attempt you think you're going to wipe anyways to make sure.
From what I've heard, -no- form of tank self-healing does. Frenzied Regen does not make it stack. Rune Tap doesn't. Death Strike doesn't. Death Pact doesn't. So I'm pretty sure Death Coil doesn't as well.
Just check the
first comment
instead of putting all the abilities. I think its kinda informative. Lichbone isnt mentioned, but i double it gives stacks if Frenzied regen doesnt.
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Post by
Orranis
Are you asking for a Lichbourne macro? Straight Mastery works for everything though I'd definitely recommend gearing more heavily towards Stamina for Blackhorn and Zon'ozz, maybe even Yor'sahj if you seem to have trouble there.
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Post by
Orranis
Lichbourne isn't 'needed' per se but I'd say it's your best option.
As a general rule just pick up every tanking trinket you can get your hands on. I've seen no Soulshifter or Pride yet, (I might say Pride is better than Soulshifter as the Mastery doesn't necessarily proc when you need it, though it's probably less overall damage taken), but I switch out between Heroic Scales of Life, Mirror of Broken Images, the valor one, the 403 dodge, sometimes a DPS trinket, and Stay of Execution.
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