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Post by
YuriElite
Yesterday I was thinking of coming back to the server I first played on, Vashj (EU) because I do miss talking to a close friend of mine who often plays on this server even if it's a PVP server. However I then thought I should ask questions on the trade channel saying is it worth playing on the friends server or not, someone said pvp is fine and then I said about the major problem of ganking. As I'm fully aware of, Vashj appears to be a server that's flooded with Horde which is bad news for me as I'm Alliance there.
Then I asked, why are there so much Horde and not so many Alliance? & then this comment came, "Because Alliance suck". Now may I ask, if your playing as a Alliance and you say this then why on Earth are you Alliance anyway? I remember playing AV battlegrounds (51-60), this was about a year or 2 ago and we were losing everytime and I asked why and I had the same reply and this time it's the battlegroup that are saying it.
This is probably the biggest reason why I have not played on Vashj for a long time, because most people on pvp servers are jerks. If the Alliance are so bad then way play them if all people prefer to do is to just let the Horde win in battlegrounds and just allow them to gank us without Alliance 80s to fight them back when this happens?
Now I'm unsure what to do, this has really put me off from coming back, if the Alliance really does suck then I guess I have no choice but not to come back and just play Horde on another server. =(
Post by
YuriElite
dumbest thread ever.
You ask a question like this on your realm forum, not WoWhead.
Sorry, I don't know where to post and if I put it on the WoW forums then people will notice me and call me a troll. =(
Sorry I asked if you think it's a stupid thread...
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Post by
YuriElite
Ignore the trolls, they'll post on any thread they can for a reaction.
From what i've witness, Alliance do fail at PvP alot more than horde do on most servers. (Not all of them though.) However Alliance tend to be better PvE-ists. I've seen horde fail miserably in ToC, where Alliance with lower gear scores preformed it NP.
I wished both factions had equal populations and did well on pvp and pve...
Post by
Colie
I wished both factions had equal populations and did well on pvp and pve...
Yep, a nice, balanced server and battlegroup would be a dream coming true... lol
Cuz u either lose without even having a chance to win, or u faceroll as a horde. CHALLANGE is totally missing from the game...
Post by
YuriElite
I wished both factions had equal populations and did well on pvp and pve...
Yep, a nice, balanced server and battlegroup would be a dream coming true... lol
Cuz u either lose without even having a chance to win, or u faceroll as a horde. CHALLANGE is totally missing from the game...
I agree, there is no challenge in WoW, instances have become too easy and pvp is as !@#$ as any game you play against others online such as Halo 3, dam I can't even survive in that game and I'm $%^& with the Grenades and I'm still wondering how other people are so perfect when they use the frag grenades. =s
Post by
xaratherus
Are you specifically looking for information on PvP, or on PvE as well?
I only have experience on two battlegroups - Reckoning (Windrunner/Alliance) and Rampage (Whisperwind/Horde) - and I only have more extensive PvP experience on Windrunner, as I just recently transferred/faction-changed to Whisperwind.
Windrunner seems to be Alliance-heavy, but Reckoning seems to favor Horde for wins in my experience. Whisperwind seems, at least from what I've seen, to be pretty well-balanced between Horde and Alliance, but the Rampage battlegroup seems to get steamrolled by Alliance in the handful of battlegrounds I've gone into.
Guess that's not terribly helpful. I do agree that I'd love more balanced battlegrounds. I'm on a PvE server because I like to take my PvP as I want it, but in order to really determine how balanced battlegrounds will be you'd have to review the population balances of all the servers in the battlegroup - and I'm not sure if there's a resource to do that.
Post by
Snownation
Ignore the trolls, they'll post on any thread they can for a reaction.
From what i've witness, Alliance do fail at PvP alot more than horde do on most servers. (Not all of them though.) However Alliance tend to be better PvE-ists. I've seen horde fail miserably in ToC, where Alliance with lower gear scores preformed it NP.
Well, no @#$% sherlock.
Since Horde are pwning Alliance ass in PvP, there's not a whole lot to do for Alliance, so they can only excel in PvE.
Post by
YuriElite
Well, no @#$% sherlock.
Since Horde are pwning Alliance ass in PvP, there's not a whole lot to do for Alliance, so they can only excel in PvE.
I see, I'll suppose I have no choice but to be Horde then and not ever get to talk to the friend again like last time.
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Post by
YuriElite
Ignore the trolls, they'll post on any thread they can for a reaction.
From what i've witness, Alliance do fail at PvP alot more than horde do on most servers. (Not all of them though.) However Alliance tend to be better PvE-ists. I've seen horde fail miserably in ToC, where Alliance with lower gear scores preformed it NP.
It's their awesome racials. Honestly, I love the Horde, but their racials are weak by comparison. Wtb a Hordeling who can vanish anytime while being 2% harder to hit at all times regardless! Bleh :/
Yeah, Horde always seem to have the best racials, lets compare them all with the best racial skill.
Alliance
Human -
Every Man for Himself
Dwarf -
Stoneform
Gnome -
Escape Artist
Night Elf -
Shadowmeld
Draenei -
Gift of the Naaru
Horde
Orc -
Blood Fury
Troll -
Berserking
Tauren -
War Stomp
Undead -
Will of the Forsaken
Blood Elf -
Arcane Torrent
Just by looking at these, Horde obviously have the better racials as most would assume. Horde racials are more Offensive while Alliance are more Defensive but Horde racials are indeed more beneficial and helpful.
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Post by
chase123
Alliance
Human -
Every Man for Himself
That racial is more op than any other racial in the game.
Post by
YuriElite
Alliance
Human -
Every Man for Himself
That racial is more op than any other racial in the game.
True but most of the other races have racials that don't compare to well with that one.
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YuriElite
Alliance
Human -
Every Man for Himself
That racial is more op than any other racial in the game.
True but most of the other races have racials that don't compare to well with that one.
That's the point lol. Alliance has amazing racials. Not that all Horde racials are bad, but Alliance got the better end of that deal by far.
I thought it was the Horde that have the better racials, I always thought of this as a fact since the game was once new, back when Will of the Forsaken used to have immunity for a duration of time, Human didn't use to have Every Man for Himself, instead they had Perception as their main racial trait.
Even though the racials have changed since then but most of them are the same as before.
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