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Asylu
ITS JUST WRONG, WE WEREN'T MADE TO MATE HOMOSEXUALLY!
My reply is simply: Prostate Gland.
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260787
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Asylu
Oh well. No big deal. lol
Post by
gamerunknown
reproduction is a drive that we, as living being, have.
From
this thread
. I don't think it's necessarily true: there are people that do not have any desire to have children. I'm one of them, despite being heterosexual. I also knew of an adult couple that told me (when I was quite young) that they loved children. I asked them if they wanted to have one and the wife broke down crying, because she was infertile. So there are other loving adult relationships without the possibility of children.
You were responding to this quote:
Either way, the world is conditioned to make you feel and think that heterosexual is the only real way to go and if you go in another direction, it will be at the least
difficult
.
I agree with the sentiment that choosing to be openly homosexual is difficult, but I think it's because of the way society views homosexuality.
Post by
MyTie
reproduction is a drive that we, as living being, have.
From
this thread
. I don't think it's necessarily true: there are people that do not have any desire to have children. I'm one of them, despite being heterosexual. I also knew of an adult couple that told me (when I was quite young) that they loved children. I asked them if they wanted to have one and the wife broke down crying, because she was infertile. So there are other loving adult relationships without the possibility of children.
...
Ok, so not everyone wants kids. A lot of people do. Homosexuals can't have kids. This is a difficulty. That's more of my point. I wasn't saying that
EVERY LIVING HUMAN BEING WANTS KIDS
. That would be silly. I think you know what I meant.
Post by
Adamsm
Homosexuals can't have kids. This is a difficulty.Maybe back in the day, but that's not really true anymore: in-vitro, surrogates, adoption; lots of ways for a gay couple to have a child.
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Post by
Jubilee
Do infertile couples have less of a relationship than fertile heterosexual couples who chose to have children, or is their relationship simply different? I think that's insulting and plain wrong to say the former is true, and the same holds true for any other couple. I would love to have children some day, but that in no way diminishes my love for my significant other. I don't look at her and think "baby maker," I look at her and see the person I love.
Eating is a drive most human beings have too, but that does not mean I won't fall in love and have a successful relationship with someone who can't cook.
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Adamsm
It would be illegal to depict rape, so these themes would automatically make such a game illegal. There are games that have rape in them; both from the bad guys and at times from the player characters if they want to jump off that slope(and aren't hentai).
Post by
gamerunknown
From earlier in the thread:
Woman haven't been forced to marry in a long time in modern areas
Ya, but laws against rape in marriage are relatively recent.
The draining of resources and pollution are caused by modernization
Uh... do you think a population of seven billion is sustainable without agriculture? There are two things that need to be done to secure "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" for all citizens: voluntary population control and an equitable distribution of resources. We're not going to return to hunting with flint.
Homosexuality and biology
.
Post by
MyTie
Do infertile couples have less of a relationship than fertile heterosexual couples who chose to have children, or is their relationship simply different? I think that's insulting and plain wrong to say the former is true, and the same holds true for any other couple.In reference to my earlier post, I said nor insinuated either. I just pointed out that the inability to reproduce can be a difficulty. That's all.I would love to have children some day, but that in no way diminishes my love for my significant other. I don't look at her and think "baby maker," I look at her and see the person I love.I don't feel that the ability to reproduce or inability define a person, nor are the sole reasons for relationships. I just think that it plays a role in human romantic relationships, a lot of the time.Eating is a drive most human beings have too, but that does not mean I won't fall in love and have a successful relationship with someone who can't cook.
I don't know if that analogy holds up. You will still have the ability to eat even if your spouse cannot cook. I get what you are saying, though.
Post by
Jubilee
It obviously can and does play a role in relationships between people who can and want to have children, but why should that mean that it ought to play a role in relationships between people who either can't or don't want to have children?
I don't know if that analogy holds up. You will still have the ability to eat even if your spouse cannot cook. I get what you are saying, though.
I still have the ability to have a child even if my significant other cannot give it to me. Just like cooking for each other may or may not be a part of people's relationships, so too childbearing may or may not be part of it. The biology of eating food and of having children does not change.
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MyTie
It obviously can and does play a role in relationships between people who can and want to have children, but why should that mean that it ought to play a role in relationships between people who either can't or don't want to have children? If people don't want to have children, then of course, having children doesn't play a role in their relationship. If people can't have children, and don't want to have children, then of course, having children doesn't play a role in their relationship. If people can't have children, and want to have children, then of course, having children does play a role in their relationship. If people can have children, and want to have children, then of course, having children does play a role in their relationship.
If two people want to produce a child from their relationship, but are unable to, then that can be a difficulty for them. I'm not trying to say what "ought" to be done. I'm not actually saying anything beyond what is, nor implying such. I see this as a difficulty, and that's it.
Post by
FatalHeaven
Homosexuals can't have kids. This is a difficulty.Maybe back in the day, but that's not really true anymore: in-vitro, surrogates, adoption; lots of ways for a gay couple to have a child.
His point was more that they can't have a child that's equal parts of both parents, like a straight couple. Not that a gay couple simply can't have children.
So take a lesbian couple for example. The doctor extracts the egg out of one of them. Harvests it with the sperm, and places it in the other woman. I think that comes pretty near close as being equal parts of the parents. I mean yes true, the one carrying the child is simply being a surrogate; but I think the fact that she carried the child makes one heck of a bond that would be hard to break and makes both parents feel equal. I'm speaking as a lesbian in a long term partnership and this is something my partner and I have discussed.
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MyTie
So take a lesbian couple for example. The doctor extracts the egg out of one of them. Harvests it with the sperm, and places it in the other woman. I think that comes pretty near close as being equal parts of the parents. I mean yes true, the one carrying the child is simply being a surrogate; but I think the fact that she carried the child makes one heck of a bond that would be hard to break and makes both parents feel equal. I'm speaking as a lesbian in a long term partnership and this is something my partner and I have discussed.
certainly an option, that works for many.
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164232
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gamerunknown
Holy two year necro Batman... :P
Was my second of the week actually: didn't want to derail the LGBT question thread.
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164232
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