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Post by
Pebber
I play a level 80 holy paladin. Now I know im not and endgame super player or claim to have played this class since the dawn of wow. But Im a solid player that healed on many different classes through wow. Played a Holy priest in vanilla and a resto shaman in hardcore TBC raiding.
My pally is more than geared for healing heroics - with all of them being really trivial, but I do it for badges anyway. All except one. Trial of the Champion (TOC)
I played this dungeon as a dps'ers. Never found it that hard. But healing it as a pally, Find it more than a handfull at times. Then at other times its a breeze and and we sail right through.
Ive come down to the conclussion that its not me, but its the players I group with (pugs often).
First of all composition. If its me, a tank and 3 melee dps'ers. First bossfight can be a pain with all the melee ranged aoe.
Undergeared. If fights take too long, eventually someone will die. This is especially true in the last phase of the black knight fight.
Players that doesnt know their class. Especially the first fight offers many opportunities to throw out stuns and other abilities that will decrease the amount of damage the mobs are dealing
I would like to know what other healers view on this heroic is? Do you ever thing about who you bring along like ive started to do. Recently I refused to go with a blue and green geared feral druids. His best item was a level 78 green.
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Pebber
Chances are you aren't geared enough, so too many ungeared people will make that heroic difficult.
Fair enough. Then I would like peoples judgement. Am I undergeared for this heroic?
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Arathor&n=Pebmeister
Post by
valundar
your spec confuses me.
From your gear.. you seem to be a FoL spammer.
That said.. why aren't you using a
PVP FoL Libram?
But to answer your question, Yes you are geared enough for H ToC.
You may just need to remember to properly use your spells. (keep SS, FoL Hot and Beacon up... rest of the time spam spam spam.)
During the black night.. i found that liberal use of HL and HS+insta FoL like in raids is way more effective.
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Post by
hatman555
As a tank, I know that alot of unessisary damage can come from people standing in things. The Black knight drops Death and Decay, all the time. While i try not to move him too much during the fight, right before death I will try and make sure he does not die in his own D&D. I don't know why but people know its a 3 phase fight and they still love to stack up on a body when it goes down. Especailly in P2 when he is summoning his Army of the dead, people will stand right next to him and take tons of damage from his last D&D. Having a good tank can really make the difference in those fights.
I always use Divine sacrifice when I'm with a healer because I know they can let my 42K health pool take some of that transfered damage.
Cheers,
Hat
Post by
Nystali
As a healer, you have more ability to power a group through H ToC than any other role. Better DPS makes it faster (less mana consuming), better tank makes it easier (don't need to use Holy Light as much).
A few days ago I was helping a friend get through it. He's still gearing as a tank but unfortunately he got stuck with a very poorly geared healer and some very low dps at the same time. Therefore, they weren't able to get through the champions. I went in to heal (tree went boom), had 0 problems with the champs (would have had some if the shaman was there, though). Then we had confessioner and it took the dps forever to kill the nightmare which of course isn't pleasant when we have to constantly throw heals on random people, keep that slowcast debuff off of us, and any dots off other people. Definitely the hardest Confessioner I've had to do.
Then on the black knight, the slow dps caught up to us again. My trick is to always refresh beacon every phase, cause normal groups are able to get through a phase before beacon runs out. Refresh then I'm able to just blast heals on the dps. Normally I use a third of my mana on each phase if I'm really tossing out the heals. But definitely at phase 3 I'm using all my leftover mana to spam holy lights on the dps, particularly the one with the arrow (if you're able to peel your eyes off the healthbars every second or so to pick it up). It took us a few wipes, but eventually I was able to compensate long enough for our slow dps to get him down.
Was definitely the hardest work I've done in there.
If I were to rate the healers for H ToC from my experience:
Holy Priest=Healadin>Shaman>=Disc Priest>>Tree
For some reason, most of the druids I've had in there as a tank have had some huge problems.
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^ Walking stereotype.
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