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Post by
chase123
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The Need Before Greed loot system will be the unalterable default looting system for pick-up groups in the Dungeon System and has been updated.
* Need Before Greed will now recognize gear appropriate for a class in three ways: the class must be able to equip the item, pure melee will be unable to roll on spell power items, and classes are limited to their dominant armor type (ex. paladins for plate). All items will still be available via Greed rolls as well as the new Disenchant option should no member be able to use the item.
No more pallies, druids, and shammies rolling on our stuff. If a piece of cloth drops,
clothies get priority!
Suck it moonkins MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Post by
Thio
Ya kinda sucks being at the bottom of the cloth-chain. At times I'm half tempted to roll on plate, mail or leather gear.
Post by
Vindeta
ffs... its about dam time
Post by
Patty
It's a good thing in some ways, yeh, but the problem is that if some Mail pieces are BiS for Holy Paladins, for example, they have a lower priority despite it being BiS.
So, good in anti-ninja ideas, bad in some circumstances.
Post by
Erethzium
About time. I'm quite sick of trees and shamans sappin' mah gear.
It's a good thing in some ways, yeh, but the problem is that if some Mail pieces are BiS for Holy Paladins, for example, they have a lower priority despite it being BiS.
So, good in anti-ninja ideas, bad in some circumstances.
The Need Before Greed loot system will be the unalterable default looting system for
pick-up groups in the Dungeon System
and has been updated.
This is just for the Group Loot system, or at least, that's what it appears to be. Nothing will stop Master Looter from looting Mail to a paladin =P
Post by
Patty
I really should re-read. >_>
It's good considering the Cross-server LFG being implemented, but it might be a little bit of hassle.
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Post by
OscarDivine
I have made more of
these
for non-cloth wearers than i have for cloth wearers at this point. They take what has the best stats, but at least now they can't steal.
Post by
Paolo
Remember, the new paradigm will be for pugs only. In a guild run, loot can be distributed however you like. If I were an elesham or holy pally or whatever, and I were looking for a particular item of a lower armor class, it's simple: pugging will be out of the question.
When they dropped in our guild run, the only person who had any interest in
Anub's gloves
other than me was a boomkin. Six other clothies passed, probably because they were working on tier bonuses. Look around at boomkin BiS lists, and they're filled with cloth. GMs need to be made aware of this itemization deficiency, but for a pug, the boomkins are sol. Which, of course, is fine with me.
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Post by
ascero
Yeah, this loot system ONLY applies to pugs created with the new matchmaking system. It is unchangeable and forced on these groups. If you just create a group with your friends, you can use whatever loot system you want. If you create a group with a bunch of random (but selected) people on your sever, you can still use the normal Group Loot system.
And seriously, if the BiS Pally item is Mail, what are the chances that it is going to drop in (IE) Heroic Utgarde Keep. Zero. Stop 'yer whinin, this is an awesome change, should have came sooner.
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Post by
faia
this just help pugs like heroic since 99.9% of raids is in Master loot
so your
EPIC HEALER MACE
can still go to the elemental shaman
this system is made more for cross server LFG since I bet Ninjaing and none-respect because of Anonymous exploiter's will think" well it won't hurt if i steal it since its astronomic chance we ever see you again!" but it help's some atleast
more intrested on how this will work on lower level where non cloth caster items are more rare then legendary stuff
I am more interested in the disenchant feature!
it chance of overflow of enchanting mat's even more (after the ToC started farm of abyss shards on normal) so I see no excuse to not enchant the best of the best enchants anymore;)
Post by
Erethzium
Remember now everyone, this is JUST for the "Looking for Dungeon" system, nothing else. Not Master Looter in guild runs, or anything, JUST the LFD.
Also, I'm thinking that they'll make it so that if everyone passes, then it will still be lootable by anyone, not destroyed or anything.
Another way they could do it is just with a "priority" system. AKA, a Priest and a Shaman both Need on a cloth item, but the Priest gets priority because it's cloth. But if the Priest passes, it goes to the Shaman.
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