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Rogue - 43/5/23 (PvP spec)
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Post by
Terricjason1
Hi all, i need some help with the new talents and things for rogues, i havent played any wotlk content yet but am starting up again and i currently have a lvl 70 rogue sitting which i want to level, and mainly pvp with at level 80, my 2v2 parter will most likely be a resto druid (my irl friend),
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#fhecoxMsiMoIzZ0xZebfb0hzb:iTj
: just looking for suggestions on how to improve basically.
Also based on what i have been reading the gem and hit rating setup looks best like this after the hit cap: hit rating 165, 32 ap for red gems 18ap 8 crit for yellow and 12 stam for blue
Edit: after reading posts i believe this spec looks better:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#fhxcoeMoiroGzZ0xZebfb0hdb:iTj
You get Heightened senses and vile poisons for higher envenom dmg, i think 3 points out of ruthlessness and into vile poisons makes sence because envenom ignores armor correct? so in case of a resto druid arms warrior for example Deadly poison and envenom > eviscerate
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Post by
KidB
Bad choices, some of which are mentioned above. Remorseless is great for leveling, but nothing more than that. Ruthlessness, however great for pve is wasted in a pvp build considering you'll always be mutilating twice between finishers. Improved kidney shot would be great if you're running with additional dps and coordinate burst during, but with you solo pounding on your targets, it's not such a big deal. Not to mention kidney shot being the primary target for pvp trinkets.
Quick recovery is amazing with a healer, you should definately look into getting it. Vile poisons and murder are things you should definately look into picking up since they will up your damage quite a bit on long endurance matches against healers.
And finally, yes, heightened senses. Without it you're at a disadvantage against other rogues.
Post by
Terricjason1
Bad choices, some of which are mentioned above. Remorseless is great for leveling, but nothing more than that. Ruthlessness, however great for pve is wasted in a pvp build considering you'll always be mutilating twice between finishers. Improved kidney shot would be great if you're running with additional dps and coordinate burst during, but with you solo pounding on your targets, it's not such a big deal. Not to mention kidney shot being the primary target for pvp trinkets.
Quick recovery is amazing with a healer, you should definately look into getting it. Vile poisons and murder are things you should definately look into picking up since they will up your damage quite a bit on long endurance matches against healers.
And finally, yes, heightened senses. Without it you're at a disadvantage against other rogues.
ok thanks for the input, i have 1 question though, with
http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=16515it
only works with dot poisons and damaging poisons, dont you normally use poisons like mind numbing etc in arena?
Post by
KidB
Most rogues went double wound after the mind numbing nerf. I can see why, considering wound comprises a hefty chunk of your overall damage and can't be mitigated by armor.
Post by
Random0098
Is good?
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Post by
KidB
Is good?
Good for what? Lack of DW spec reduces its effectiveness right off the bat. If you're planning on arenas it could do with improvements.
Don't perfectly agree with you that ruthlessness is wasted, you'll see a lot of good rogues like Akrioss speccing it instead of Vile Poisons after they changed Vile Poisons.
Okay then. Argument. Don't just say "this guy specced differently".
Post by
Random0098
I suppose it would be better for World Ganking (edit: of people the same level as you) than PvP...
I chose master of subtlety over DW for "do as much damage in 6 seconds as possible". And in that case, Imp Kidney shot is a little counter intuitive - Those can be put into something else in assassination I guess.
Edit: Or wait!
Ambush -> Kidney Shot (4cp +19% damage on all attacks for next 5 seconds) -> Mutilate -> Eviscerate -> Mutilate -> Eviscerate.... Vanish/start over?
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