This site makes extensive use of JavaScript.
Please enable JavaScript in your browser.
Live
PTR
10.2.7
PTR
10.2.6
Beta
Skribs' PvP DK Handbook
Post Reply
Return to board index
Post by
146010
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
234857
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
273917
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
259957
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
273917
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
253310
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
253310
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
256079
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
259957
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
273917
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
253310
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
259957
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
253310
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
253310
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
251480
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
179197
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
253310
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
Zerul
As for pure survivability (excluding all sub-specs):
Frost
- Longer IBF (better survivability against Rogues)
- Unbreakable Armor
- Lichborne (exempt if Unholy decides to go sub-Frost instead of sub-Blood)
...that's all I can really think of.
On the other hand...
Unholy
- Bone Shield (pretty much like a Pain Suppression, good against ANYONE)
- Can more frequently kill your own Ghoul for health
- Improved AMS (amazing)
- AMZ (not so amazing, unless you got a healer partner, then it is amazing)
Post by
Draenus
I would like to post my comments on this conversation.
First of all, great handbook, i will sure report it for sticky (plz everyone do so and try placing your thoughts on this thread).
Now about some talents. First time i saw the DK talents i thought unholy as the main pvp spec but after lots of brainstorming with friends that also rolled DK i also admire frost as one of the best pvp specs.
In my opinion though there are some talents that are absolutely MUST have for arena PvP, these talents are: Litchborne (as fear is a great deal of cc in arenas), Virulence (for the 30% resist dispell on diseases), Dark Command (makes DK a bit less kitable), On a Pale Horse (less time getting raped while stunned), Toughness (makes DK even less kitable) and i would gladly sacrifice MoB for the talents i just mentioned.
Playing without Virulence is a great loss in arena. Shamans and priests will be a great pain and cause a lot of trouble since ALL of our attacks are affected by diseases more or less. Even if u specc frost(main), Frost Fever provides boost to the damage of all of your skills and its better to be kept on the target as longer as possible. For unholy i shouldnt really speak about the importance of maintaining disases because this spec is absolutely based on them. The only thing i should mention about unholy is something i had a glimpse on and made me furious: DONT use only 1 talent on Crypt Fever only for the application of a 3rd disease that is absolutely retarded, if u want to get deep unholy then Ebon Plaguebringer is MANDATORY: it boosts damage from diseases,SS, Gargoyle, DC, *YOUR ARENA PARTNER* (if he is a caster) dont mention the +3% passive crit chance increase.
Personally i will try unholy spec because it is taking advantage of something noone in this thread mentioned, it encourages Plague Strike spam , a strike that
removes hots
, and offers much more ToT(even with shapeshifting druids wont get the slow of dececrated ground removed) for the cost of only 1 unholy rune. Also people seem to favor OB over SS and thats extremely wrong despite the what all the maths say, maths are for PvE not PvP. Armor reduction is
*must have*
in arena combat especially when fighting against warriors, paladins, druids, shamans(resto or ele), enemy DKs, and the fact that SS, FS, HB can deal damage through BoP makes OB a skill i would pesonally never slam like crazy.
The only things that make me think about frost is Endless Winter (absolutely wtfpwnz talent) paired with Glyph of CoI and the guaranteed damage+armor ignore of FS. The bonus duration of IBF from Guile of Gorefiend is fine but i dont see it as such a great advantage over unholy because of Bone Shield (focusing on damage reduction+survivability).
The only things i favor in blood spec (but still not enought to change my mind) is Hysteria and Vampiric Blood (which boosts healing u recieve from any heal u get, great for times you are getting nuked). That seems strange to say but think about that: for 30 seconds (the time hysteria is on) getting polymorphed or blinded is not an issue. Both of these talents are too deep in blood though.
My opinion is Unholy/Frost (up to litchborne) spec. Feel free to comment anything plz, i want other opinions on these thoughts.
EDIT: Forgot to mention about the use of unholy resence, its absolutely pvp presence not only for the bonus in movement speed but also for the GCD reduction since u ll be able to apply more diseases per second and get a good burst with less ToT that any other presence. Dont event think about blood presence in arena, and frost presence only when getting nuked.
Post by
234892
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post Reply
You are not logged in. Please
log in
to post a reply or
register
if you don't already have an account.