Post by Fakir
My current spec, http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LVMh0fZhbZVItrM0zidIzsGo
My personal preference, not to use Toughness.
I find that right now, especially since dual spec isn't out yet
I would always rate Toughness higher than Shield Spec. Toughness reduces all physical dmg taken and not just from the attacks you block. Taking toughness will make your healers' task slightly easier and your survival rate slightly higher.
About your prot DPS on Loatheb:
I push nearly 3.5k dps with my prot spec.
Of that, nearly 50% is Deep Wounds, due to the white crits from my off-hand, 300dmg crit, extending my 6k deep wounds ticks, I push incredible damage as prot in that fight.
3.5 K on Loatheb and 1.8-2K on Patch is good I guess, but is it really that incredible?As fury specced I push 6K+ on Loatheb and 5K on Patch (Heroic mode - would be less on normal mode) and we're not even a hardcore raiding guild. Deep wounds really tick in those fight for all warriors. Static boss fight + high crit bonus during the fight = Yummy.
However, Loatheb aside, I tank with a higher overall damage taken comparison. All the healers I've tanked for, that the Prot pally has tanked for, have told me how much easier it is to heal me.
This likely being that I have nearly 26.5%(give or take) unbuffed dodge, with 20.5% unbuffed parry and 24.5% unbuffed block chance(950 block value). (I realize these aren't all directly related to spec, but I know tanks that drop points in Anticipation
just to keep Toughness)
Well, your gear and numbers are good for threat (which is good as an OT) and avoidance, but your 26K health and your armor is kinda low if you want to move on to 25 man raids as main tank. It's fine for an OT - but hey, I can OT Naxx 10 or be third tank in Naxx 25 as fury specced, so it's not really that hard content. Even so, you will take more dmg in heroic mode and your healers will begin to feel the difference between your gear/spec and others. They also will if you plan on MTing (or maybe even OTing) Ulduar 10 when it hits. Then stamina gems will be your friend.
Btw. are you sure that the healers you've spoken with aren't just feeling you're easier to heal because your lower health makes their heals heal a higher percentage each time and hence make your green health bar move quicker to full?
Ooooor how about this? Vigilance? Really how often have you found Vigilance to be nesc?
Since Impale and Cruelty in effect I think dropping one point in cruelty for Impale actually leads to a higher TPS and DPS.
One whirlwind from them pushes more threat than a shockwave crit and a thunder clap crit.. Because a good Fury warrior can dish out about 10k damage to every mob in a 4-mob group. Vigilance makes it possible to keep that aggro off the warrior. It may not seem like much, but with characters that repeatedly push 3k+ in 5-mans... Vigilance is a god-send.
I aggree with your statement - but a fury warrior at least shouldn't initiate with a WW on trash. Even if WW is the better for DPS I use demo-shout + BT (on main target) first just to give the tank a little head start.