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DotD - July 19 - [General Topic] Sexism, Misogyny, Tattoos, and Promiscuity
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Hyperspacerebel
July 9 - Is access to internet a basic human right?
In modern society, the internet plays a huge role in education and communication. So much so that four years ago Finland declared internet access to be a basic human right and by law required it to be accessible to every permanent residence. Should access to internet be considered a basic human right on a national or international level?
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ElhonnaDS
No.
I think that at a certain level of development, it may be a practical and economically beneficial practice to make the internet available to everyone in order to facilitate access to information and help with education, but I wouldn't call it a basic human right.(##RESPBREAK##)8##DELIM##ElhonnaDS##DELIM##
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Hyperspacerebel
I'm currently working with fiber internet and low-income access initiatives in Minnesota with a non-profit I'm a board member on, and if there is one thing I've come to realize as I've put time and work into various avenues of research is that it's not a stretch to consider internet access a key component helping to bring people above the poverty line. The sheer amount of education available on the internet coupled with the job market that opens up when you are competent enough with internet tools could singlehandedly give poorer communities the boost they need. I see the beginnings of a new type of class structure being formed where internet access is a delimiting factor. I feel like with the wealth of information and knowledge and experience that exists thanks to the internet, that it is a travesty that there are people in first world countries who still don't have the means to maintain a connection. And that's not even considering the impact internet access has on developing countries.
I truly believe that over the next 50 years the internet will change the way the world works exponentially beyond what it has already done, and in ways that we haven't yet fully grasped. And I believe that in 50 years, people who don't have access to the internet or who didn't grow up with access will be at such a tangible disadvantage that it's worth it, and even -- I think -- ethically mandatory, that initiative start moving forward now to help bridge the digital divide.
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Squishalot
July 9 - Is access to internet a basic human right?
In modern society, the internet plays a huge role in education and communication. So much so that four years ago Finland declared internet access to be a basic human right and by law required it to be accessible to every permanent residence. Should access to internet be considered a basic human right on a national or international level?
I don't feel like it should be a 'right', but will caveat this by noting that Australia doesn't have a Bill of Rights. I do agree that those without access to internet are disadvantaged, and that internet access could be a factor in determining welfare levels, however it is most definitely a luxury good compared to food, water and shelter. It is not a bare requirement for survival.
Edit: I should also note that when I say it's a factor for welfare, I mean that if a family does not have enough money to pay for basic food, transport, lodging, healthcare, etc., a socialist society would look after those needs. Internet would fall into that category, but ought to sit lower down the priority list. As a result, it shouldn't be considered a 'right'.(##RESPBREAK##)8##DELIM##Squishalot##DELIM##
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gnomerdon
July 9 - Is access to internet a basic human right?
yes, because most of the media gives out are misconstrued sometimes.
in the internet, u'll find that it would be more unbiased than the media (television), just a bit.
it's a god given human right. and to deny one from the internet is taking their liberty to find knowledge
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Hyperspacerebel
July 10 - Should joining the military of a modern, dominant world power (US as an immediate example) automatically be considered a heroic choice and worthy of praise?
Edit: Fitting some of these into 100 characters is kind of a pain.
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Skreeran
I think it depends. Joining the Army voluntarily in World War 2 would naturally have been more admirable than in the Vietnam War.
These days? I think a lot of it depends on the reasoning.
I joined not to go to Afghanistan, but because I wanted to do
this
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That lady is actually from the city I live in.
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Gone
It depends on the country. Nazi Germany? No. 2013 America? Depends on the situation. There's nothing heroic about joining in and of itself, I guess other than the fact that it takes some bravery since we're in a war and you could be killed. Once you actually join you have opportunities to be heroic based on your actions.
EDIT: the question asks two different things. Is it heroic? And is it worthy of praise? Just because its not heroic doesn't mean it's not praiseworthy. Again, depends on the motives. If some oft joins because they want to serve they're country, raise the average standard of soldier in the army, and use their power and authority to make the world a better place, then yes they are praise worthy. If somebody just want to kill people then no they're not. If somebody just to pay for college or something, then less than the first guy but more than the second.
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240140
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Gone
Oh and if it's just to pay off college, or as a regular job that doesn't put you in any sort of danger and doesn't have you do anything special, it's as praise worthy as getting any other job.
You're still in just as much danger as for whatever reason you join. You can still be deployed and killed in battle. This scenario just loses credibility in my mind because the motives are pragmatic rather than altruistic.
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Gone
Oh and if it's just to pay off college, or as a regular job that doesn't put you in any sort of danger and doesn't have you do anything special, it's as praise worthy as getting any other job.
You're still in just as much danger as for whatever reason you join. You can still be deployed and killed in battle. This scenario just loses credibility in my mind because the motives are pragmatic rather than altruistic.
I don't know, a friend of mine joined the army and acted like he was going through so much *!@#. He sorted mail. If they need to send people in to battle who are not trained for it, it's probably about time for a draft anyway.
Besides you're always in danger. I walked home alone yesterday at midnight, that was probably more danger than some guy sorting mail in the army.
Things are a little bit different over here. Everybody who joins goes through bootcamp and is trained in combat. Pretty much anybody who joins the Army or the Marines can be expected to fight, or at least be put in combat situations when they're deployed. If you join the Navy or the Air Force then it's less likely you'll see combat, but still possible.
Although I'll admit nothing is more annoying than somebody who gets out of bootcamp, has never been deployed, and walks around in his digitals acting like he's Rambo or something.
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Gone
He was an american soldier though. I think most armies have a bootcamp sort of thing, it's just that beyond that you go in to specific training, don't you?
You go to tech school or some equivalent, but everybody still learns combat. Are you sure your friend was in the Army, not the national guard or the Air Force? They obviously have mail sorters in the Army, but you're still expected to fight if you're deployed.
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Skreeran
Although I'll admit nothing is more annoying than somebody who gets out of bootcamp, has never been deployed, and walks around in his digitals acting like he's Rambo or something.I was never deployed and don't claim to have been, but I still like to wear my old ACU trousers. They're good work pants. :P
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