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Post by
Skreeran
Simply put, Dalaran was an alliance city from the begining and making it neutral itself was a horrid idea.Dalaran was co-founded by humans and elves. The reason it joined The Grand Alliance was because both humans and elves were united to fight the invading Horde. Hence, when the Blood Elves threw their lot in with the Horde, Dalaran became neutral, it's human and high elf populace siding with the Alliance, and its Blood Elf citizens aligning more with the Horde. However, the city as a whole generally stayed out of the conflict, rather than directly supporting either. Just look at Aethas; as a Sunreaver, barely affiliated with the Horde, he was more loyal to the Kirin Tor than Garrosh, and supported his people breaking away to escape Garrosh's bully tactics.
Post by
Lordplatypus
Wait, he was?
Why didn't he have someone tip off the kirin tor about garroshe's plan?
Post by
Berronaxwins
Hmm, can somebody send me a link to maiev's storyline?
only thing i know about her is some distant memories of WC3 & that encounter in the black temple
Post by
1090005
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
Rankkor
Wait, he was?
I told you many times that he was, dude >_> I even provided a link to a screenshot of a conversation you have with him. See, on the horde questline you are sent to Aethas to ask him to send aid to silvermoon. Aethas refuses, saying that Silvermoon and Dalaran had been friends and allies for thousands of years, and such a friendship should not be tossed aside at the whims of a madman.
Why didn't he have someone tip off the kirin tor about garroshe's plan?
as for tipping off the kirin tor about the plans of garrosh, the reason he didn't is because he was not a part of them.
The mana bomb in theramoore? NOBODY in the entire horde knew, not even the highest ranking horde leaders (Baine, for example, furiously threw a piece of cloth stained with tauren blood in the face of garrosh, blaming him and his piss-poor tactics for the loss of many tauren lives on the first failed assault in theramoore. He didn't knew that garrosh was stalling to let the alliance generals gather, and then drop the bomb on them)
As for the divine bell, they weren't involved in any way. The entire thing was done behind their backs. Fanlyr Silverthorn was the one behind it, but he is a former member of the Kirin Tor who left the order prior to MoP and joined the Reliquary.
Contrary to what that human......... witch may think Aethas was 100% loyal to dalaran, and to the kirin tor, he fully endorsed and supported the blood elves going alliance (And gladly would had served as liaison between both sides in the negotiations) and if he had know AT ALL about what they were planning to do, he would had said something, or done something about it.
Hmm, can somebody send me a link to maiev's storyline?
only thing i know about her is some distant memories of WC3 & that encounter in the black temple
Ask and thy shall receive.
Knowledge is power. Use it well.
Edit:
Why the hell aren't those URL tags working? O.o
probably because you're new? I dunno, it is odd, since, to prevent spammers, new users can't post any links at all, yet your links work, the problem is the URL tags.
Post by
acapitalistdog
I would imagine blood elves converting to high elves to rejoin the alliance, though i can't imagine them joining the alliance under the 'blood elves' per se.
Post by
Adamsm
I would imagine blood elves converting to high elves to rejoin the alliance, though i can't imagine them joining the alliance under the 'blood elves' per se.
....Once the Fel Corruption sets in, there is no going back; Blood Elves will always be Blood Elves. While it's true Blood Elves did a forceful conversion onto High Elves after the Third War, the reverse wouldn't work: You can't just take the Fel taint out of them.
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Post by
Adamsm
But didn´t the Orcs shake off their Fel taint, hence their green-colored skin?
The green colour is the Fel taint; a normal orc should be a nice dark brown, like all of those Mag'hari orcs who didn't drink the Blood. Saw that in Rise of the Horde, when Durotan and Draka noticed that the green skin colour was coming in under their brown skin tone. It may be possible that the Taint could be bred out, but it would probably take a few hundred generations.
Post by
Rankkor
I would imagine blood elves converting to high elves to rejoin the alliance, though i can't imagine them joining the alliance under the 'blood elves' per se.
Again, no. They left the alliance because one racist general tried to kill them all for no reason. They tried to make peace with the alliance, and rejoin them and another racist witch tried to kill them all. Again.
They're not gonna bite the same bait a third time. That's twice the alliance has screwed them over, if they joined again, they'd be treated worse than second-class citizens, and at the first hint of foul play, all the fingers would point at them looking for boogiemen to hunt down. Even if by some miracle they get the fel taint out of their bodies and reverse back, they'll still NEVER rejoin the alliance after what Jaina pulled.
Maybe a few centuries later it could happen, but elves are SLOW as frick to forgive and forget, just look at how long it took the night elves to forgive the highborne and accept them back into their fold? And even then they're still viewed with suspicion and fear among the kaldorei population.
I would imagine blood elves converting to high elves to rejoin the alliance, though i can't imagine them joining the alliance under the 'blood elves' per se.
....Once the Fel Corruption sets in, there is no going back; Blood Elves will always be Blood Elves. While it's true High Elves did a forceful conversion onto Blood Elves after the Third War, the reverse wouldn't work: You can't just take the Fel taint out of them.
I dunno man, their exposure to the taint was far less than the orcs. Unlike the orcs they didn't drank demon blood, and unlike other orcs, they didn't got that much exposure to fel energy, it wasn't even 10 years. I do think its reversible, but its not gonna be for several generations.
Fel taint is like nuclear fallout, it does degrades overtime, but its a slow process that will take multiple generations before its done. It doesn't help that demons continue to attack azeroth, continuing the exposure to fel magic.
Also I fixed your typo :P you said "blood elves converted to high elves at the end of the third war" xD.
....Once the Fel Corruption sets in, there is no going back; Blood Elves will always be Blood Elves. While it's true Blood Elves did a forceful conversion onto High Elves after the Third War, the reverse wouldn't work: You can't just take the Fel taint out of them.
But didn´t the Orcs shake off their Fel taint, hence their green-colored skin?
There are multiple stages of fel taint. First stage is green coloration, either of the skin, or your eyes, ect. This is how everyone using fel magic starts, And later, continued exposure leads to red skin, horns, claws, hooves instead of feet, and tails, as the race becomes demonic in nature.
Original orcs look like
this
, orcs that were exposed to fel magic (including demon blood) look like
this
and orcs that continued to be exposed to even more fel magic, eventually became
this
(notice the mutations such as the spikes on the back and face, as well as larger tusks.
Original High Elves look like
these
(blue eyes) after a minor exposure to fel energy they look like
this
(green eyes) and after continued exposure to demon magic (including demon blood) they look like
this
(Green eyes, red skin, fangs, horns, wings, claws, and facial markings)
Because the exposure they had was very minor, it may be possible for elves to revert back in time, orcs.......... doubtful, their exposure was too long, and across at least 2 generations, it will take a lot for them to revert back.
Post by
Adamsm
Also I fixed your typo :P you said "blood elves converted to high elves at the end of the third war" xD.Lol, should still be Blood Elves converted High Elves after the Third War, before the Blood's officially joined with the Horde.
Post by
Rankkor
Also I fixed your typo :P you said "blood elves converted to high elves at the end of the third war" xD.Lol, should still be Blood Elves converted High Elves after the Third War, before the Blood's officially joined with the Horde.
if we REALLY get technical about it, back in those days, the only difference between a blood elf and a high elf was just the name. Much like how a black person in the US would refer to himself as african-american, while a black person in.......... say france would say African-European.
Post by
Adamsm
Also I fixed your typo :P you said "blood elves converted to high elves at the end of the third war" xD.Lol, should still be Blood Elves converted High Elves after the Third War, before the Blood's officially joined with the Horde.
if we REALLY get technical about it, back in those days, the only difference between a blood elf and a high elf was just the name. Much like how a black person in the US would refer to himself as african-american, while a black person in.......... say france would say African-European.
Well...that and feeding on the Fel that Kael set up.....
Post by
Rankkor
Also I fixed your typo :P you said "blood elves converted to high elves at the end of the third war" xD.Lol, should still be Blood Elves converted High Elves after the Third War, before the Blood's officially joined with the Horde.
if we REALLY get technical about it, back in those days, the only difference between a blood elf and a high elf was just the name. Much like how a black person in the US would refer to himself as african-american, while a black person in.......... say france would say African-European.
Well...that and feeding on the Fel that Kael set up.....
no no, I mean BEFORE Kael was captured and before he went to outland and before he sent back Rommath with the fel draining technique.
Before all that, the only difference between a blood elf and a high elf was just the name. And that blood elves dressed in red, while high elves preferred blue.
I guess we should had taken that as foreshadowing :P
Post by
Adamsm
Heh, I was talking about after Rank, when the Blood Elves were trying to swell up their numbers again by find the High Elves in Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms and force feeding them Fel magic to start the transformation into Blood.
Post by
Skreeran
Heh, I was talking about after Rank, when the Blood Elves were trying to swell up their numbers again by find the High Elves in Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms and force feeding them Fel magic to start the transformation into Blood.I don't remember this.
Post by
Monday
Heh, I was talking about after Rank, when the Blood Elves were trying to swell up their numbers again by find the High Elves in Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms and force feeding them Fel magic to start the transformation into Blood.I don't remember this.
I have to agree here.
Post by
Adamsm
RPG books, which as we know at this point, the canonization is up in the air.
Edit: However, it fits with the then mindset of the BE's.
Post by
Rankkor
Heh, I was talking about after Rank, when the Blood Elves were trying to swell up their numbers again by find the High Elves in Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms and force feeding them Fel magic to start the transformation into Blood.I don't remember this.
agreed.
Also WOW, SCARY ICON IS SCARY :S
Post by
Skreeran
Heh, I was talking about after Rank, when the Blood Elves were trying to swell up their numbers again by find the High Elves in Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms and force feeding them Fel magic to start the transformation into Blood.I don't remember this.
agreed.
Also WOW, SCARY ICON IS SCARY :S:o)
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