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Post by
Overhaul
Im starting PvE to work on my Legendary daggers. What poisons do I use for Sub PvE?
Post by
quiksel33
the same as any other rogue spec - Instant/Deadly.
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879113
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Post by
SquireKel
Google is your friend.
So is Noxxic's
Subtlety Rogue (PvE) guide
or Icy Veins'
PvE Subtlety Rogue guide
. Both are in-depth, comprehensive guides on the spec, discussing not only stat priority, gemming, rotations, etc. but also poisons.
Post by
Geobuster
the same as any other rogue spec - Instant/Deadly.
Not true many fights use double wound, for more damage.
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342387
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Post by
Zakkhar
the same as any other rogue spec - Instant/Deadly.
Not true many fights use double wound, for more damage.
I have yet to hear of this? Not raising the BS flag but can you give examples?
Leveling.
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342387
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Post by
Thunderbro
Leveling.
I was unaware that you could work on your legendary daggers before you were level 85. But clearly you should be able to get in to DS as a 84. Makes sense...
*WOOSH* Over your head.
Post by
Geobuster
Its talked about on EJ's raid mechanics for the tier. On fights where you don't stand on the boss for long periods of time, in anything other then assassination spec, you use double wound. Spine, madness, ship, heroic warlord. Wound has a dramatically higher proc then instant or deadly, I'm poison hit capped in combat and deadly is only up like 40% of the time on like ultraxxion or other fights, but it still comes out on top when its all just stand tank/spank.
This won't matter in panda, due to poison changes, but now, its a few % dps increase, for min/maxers, and its a very noticable diff on spine, which is all about that 30 second burst.
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342387
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Post by
Attis
I play Ass.
That solves everything
Post by
Geobuster
Oh, very well! I play Ass. so that may be why I have yet to hear that. Good to know though!
Yeah, the extra chance to proc helps you assassination kids. Lol.
Post by
stuffeh
There is A LOT of misinformation here and people not clearly understanding the mechanics of poison application and when it breaks even for combat/sub rogues.
I'm poison hit capped in combat and deadly is only up like 40% of the time on like ultraxxion
I'm also poison hit capped, and my dp is up 97% of the time according to my wol parse of heroic ultra, which dropped off only once in that parse. Poisons contributed to 19% of my total damage, ip doing 12% and dp doing 7% for that fight. This is due to the mechanic where every refresh of dp over 5 stacks forces the other poison to proc.
This mechanic is the reason why wp/wp is better for burst dps/short time on target duration is because the ramp up time to get 5 stacks of dp takes like 7-10 seconds, and even longer if you're sub at only yellow abilities hit cap like pve sub is supposed to be. And to break even on the damage it took to get to 5 stacks of dp compared to having wp/wp the whole time is another 5+ seconds.
Because of this, wp/wp would be recommended for spine, first phase of warmaster blackthorn and possibly hagara. I believe that ip/dp is best for all other heroic DS bosses, but can be argued for yorsahj for burst dmg on the adds. FYI, it is completely possible to keep your 5 stacks of DP on morchok by throwing+DP on it.
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Post by
Laxbro
By far my favorite is Deadly Poison.
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