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What can we do about multiboxing?
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pezz
SOME THINGS AREN'T FAIR I THINK BUT AM NOT SURE
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ljudsnubbe
chaosultimamage, mikekim:
I dont know if I was unclear: I play horde, and we dont have any MBs on horde-side on my server/battlegroup that im aware of. Im not sabotaging anything. The MBs at Alliance dont get helped by their allies though... I love it.
And no, I havnt tried multiboxing, never will. Its just not something Im intrested in. I do understand the difficulties there must be, requiring extra skill to do fine playing that way. Perhaps thats why so many MBs perform bad?
And about the "report everything" and "camp the multiboxers even though you can get banned for it".. lol, your right, I vent ranting, sorry. Its just something about MBs that triggers me. They ruin the gameplay for so many, both their allies (performing worse in BGs) and treir enemies (ambushes in world pvp etc). Its just not the way the game was intended to be played. If people wanna multibox to do dungeons and raids and such Im fine with it, but everything else is just ruining other peoples fun.
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Post by
Cambo
Multiboxers do not ruin the game for anyone
This.
Just because it annoys a handful of people in this thread, does not warrant a review of the 'rules' and ToS by Blizzard.
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MrSCH
I think you could liken multiboxing to heirlooms in low level PvP, to some extent.
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pezz
I think you could liken multiboxing to heirlooms in low level PvP, to some extent.
Now, to deal with 1) and 2): Well, I already have.
Multiboxing is a
disadvantage
compared to more conventional, non-multiboxing options available to PvPers.
Even if you just throw together a group of 5 arbitrary level 85s from your guild, if you give them a method of communication they will out-perform the multiboxer -- regardless of gear or anything else, they will beat the multiboxer. Multiboxing
is not power
. I don't understand how you can feel cheated about this when, by
not spending any money
and instead just asking in /g, /bg or /2 for a group for PvPing, you get a
better
team. Multi-boxers are cheating themselves, if anything. They're probably having a lot of fun one-shotting idiots who charge into them, or the poor sods who are out in the open in World PvP areas on a PvP server, but that's a very limited amount of fun when you run into two or three well-coordinated people.
Yeah, you could liken multiboxing to heirlooms, if there were heirlooms with negative amounts of stats on them. Both of them are ways for somewhat advanced players to shoot themselves in the foot.
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pezz
Hey, it was successful last time, just severely mistimed.
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ljudsnubbe
Oh, so you're making assumptions and condoning the peoples' actions who are the ones really ruining the game. Nice to know.
Well, I can only make assumptions based on what I observe in BGs and when questing etc: I have yet to see a truly skilled multiboxer. Perhaps there are some real good ones, I just havnt seen any during the years I have played the game.
Multiboxers do not ruin the game for anyone.
They do. Considering they take up several player-spots in BGs, then performing worse then if there would have been one player for each of that spot (because of the difficulties in controlling several characters at once).
there is no difference in terms of impact to other players in '1 guy controlling 5 toons' and '5 guys controlling 5 toons'. None.
Yes there are, but If you dont see it, fine. Its irrelevant in this discussion isnt it
If you don't like getting 5v1'd and slaughtered, then get some friends or stick with the group.
Totally agree. This is not a problem for me, except this: where is the fun in jumping a player 5vs1? I mean cmon, its like going into a schoolyard, beating up kinds just to feel strong.
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MrSCH
I think you could liken multiboxing to heirlooms in low level PvP, to some extent.
Yeah, you could liken multiboxing to heirlooms, if there were heirlooms with negative amounts of stats on them. Both of them are ways for somewhat advanced players to shoot themselves in the foot.
No, mr smart-arse. As in, people think that you have some inane advantage in PvP, when in fact, all is not as it seems....
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North2AK
I don't have a problem with multiboxers who want to run around in opposing faction cities killing guards or people who attack them or whatever. Or if they want to go into BG's and run around in there doing their thing.
Where I do think it has gone too far is in cases like on my server where we have a multiboxer who plays up to 15 accounts at a time. Most of his toons are horde, and he plays to win on his horde toons, however he has an alliance guild that has multiple alliance toons. What this guys does is queue for Tol Barad with both his alliance and horde toons, however he doesn't do anything productive at all with his alliance toons, most of the time they are all standing still piled up on top of eachother jumping. So what you may ask? They aren't doing anything. That is the problem, they are taking half a dozen or so BG spots from players who would otherwise be doing something useful for their faction. Not to mention of course the fact that he can read raid chat on his alliance toons and pass that info on to the horde.
Anyways, needless to say, many tickets have been submitted to Blizzard about how this is affecting the balance and fairness of BGs like Tol Barad, but more times than not, he is back the next time around.
He used to do this in Wintergrasp as well, he would take multiple alliance toons, load them into siege engines and drive them around in circles, doing nothing with them, naturally once the cap on vehicles was reached, we couldn't get anymore, so you can probably see how that BG went from that point.
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Astygia
...What this guys does is queue for Tol Barad with both his alliance and horde toons, however he doesn't do anything productive at all with his alliance toons, most of the time they are all standing still piled up on top of eachother jumping. So what you may ask? They aren't doing anything. That is the problem, they are taking half a dozen or so BG spots from players who would otherwise be doing something useful for their faction. Not to mention of course the fact that he can read raid chat on his alliance toons and pass that info on to the horde.
That's playing dirty and that player should be actioned for it, but that's not so much a problem with multiboxing as it is someone just being a dbag. It's folks like this that give the impression that 'MBers suck when not boxing'. I'm sure some do, especially when they're still learning, but most do not. Are you really going to constantly pay as much as $75/month (not to mention initial title/expansion purchases) to do something you cannot do well?
To counter the complaints I've seen in this thread, I'll just point out that the majority of you crying about multiboxers are incapable of being
carried
to a competitive arena rating, let alone earning it yourself. I'm sure there's a few random exceptions here and there but most folks whining about this are the same that spend the majority of their BG time in the graveyard telling everyone else they suck. And that's where the problem truly is; such folks believe BGs to be the height of PvP and if something goes wrong for them in there, well that's just f'ed up and it needs to change! Wrong. Not only are BGs
not
the end-all PvP venue, they are designed to rely not just on coordination, but on staying fluid and area denial. Still, if one guy can coordinate 5 toons (4 of which are robots on /follow) better than the rest of your entire raidgroup , you deserve to lose.
If you think MB'ing is easy, by all means, spend some money, set some clone PCs up, synchronize a few clients, level a few toons, then come back and prove your facerolled rating. Or, you could just conquer the difficulty of Google and get some idea of the effort and coordination involved in doing this stuff. I've seen some mediocre MBers constantly hovering around
1000MMR
or so, because they aren't good enough to push it to the limit as an actual team would do. Then I see others that take themselves up past
2200/2300
, better than many arena peeps will ever see. They lose occasionally, when they face a team that doesn't omgwigout when they see 5 shamans plopping out 20 totems, but the majority of their opponents panic or make a fatal mistake (or a sequence of fatal mistakes due to panic, like blowing longish cooldown CCs into Grounding Totems while actually running into LoS of the 5 pillar-humping, obviously boxed shaman and getting obliterated), and thus fail.
I hate MBers when I'm against them; I love them when they're backing me up. Just like I hate well-rated arena teams that queue into BGs and steamroll me when I'm alone but I sure enjoy supporting them when they're on my side. Bottom line is it's not against the rules, and any situation that got you killed by a multiboxer, would have seen you dead from a coordinated team of the same size. Play better, complain less.
EDIT: If you wish to learn about the process and requirements to multi-box, there are perfectly legal and legitimate resources out there to illustrate for viewers how it all works. I suggest whiners take a good long read, you won't only see how difficult it is and how much coordination it requires, but you'll learn ways to beat them.
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Post by
ChairmanKaga
How many players
actually
multibox?
OP is declaring the Imminent Death Of The Game (tm) over something that is done by probably less than 0.1% of the player base. What ridiculous hyperbole.
If some multiboxer is being a d-bag, guess what? There are plenty of single-box d-bags in this game, too. Ignore, change servers, get a guild to pwn them, or something productive, or just quit the game if it really bothers you that much. Don't waste bandwidth ranting about it here. Most of us here don't care.
Post by
Koruchan
How many players
actually
multibox?
OP is declaring the Imminent Death Of The Game (tm) over something that is done by probably less than 0.1% of the player base. What ridiculous hyperbole.
If some multiboxer is being a d-bag, guess what? There are plenty of single-box d-bags in this game, too. Ignore, change servers, get a guild to pwn them, or something productive, or just quit the game if it really bothers you that much. Don't waste bandwidth ranting about it here. Most of us here don't care.
^THIS
Dear lord, this right here. You are my hero, I couldn't have said it better myself.
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