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How important is it to modify your unit frame?
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sutasafaia
So addons for raiding aside, what do you consider just some basic ones? I won't be raiding for a very, very long time, if ever honestly. The only time I really ever go into an instance anymore is when I overlevel it anyway, saves me time, grief, and the need to find other players to play with and pray they are decent. Maybe I've just had very bad luck with the dungeon finder but...meh, it's beside the point and an argument for another thread, not this one. Are there just some general ones for basic play that just make your QOL easier?
I've used basic addons before, but never a unit frame modifying one. Like I mentioned in my first post, Altoholic, Auctioneer, Pawn, and the Wowhead client are basically it. I did try Carbonite and another mapper, Cartographer I think, but neither of them really help me out all that much now that WoW added their own quest markers.
Either way, do keep discussing ^_^ I'm having a ton of fun reading this particular debate, especially since it's pretty much avoiding flames. /cheer for non oboards.
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HoleofArt
HSR, answer me this:
If you're so convinced that this game is easy and addons are unnecessary, why haven't you seen and done everything there is to do in it?
Why do the players who
have
, make extensive use of them, and are most often the authors?
My, someone feels threatened... :-)
Except not. I asked the same question. It's incredibly valid.
Add-ons are required for higher levels of play. Any good raiding guild demands it.
Aestu is asking a more direct version of my question. Simple as that.
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Snownation
Addons aren't necessary.
They, however, make the process easier.
Can the world still function without computers, automated trading, electronic banking, and credit cards?
Sure it can, just go back to the olden times, the world still functioned perfectly.
Does the addition of these new things make it easier on our lives, sure they do. So much so, they that have become an integral part of our lives.
Same dice with addons.
Post by
HoleofArt
Is this discussion about the
effectivity
or the
efficiency
of interface addons?
Whether or not add-ons have the ability to increase your skill and performance during raiding.
So both, really.
Post by
MrSCH
Forgive me for having an opinion.
it is some peoples opinnion the world is 6000 years old.
It isn't. They're just wrong.
Perhaps over 7000 if you're referring to biblical literalism.
And since you set it in fact, give me the
proof
that it's not please.
(Devil's advocate all the way, baby. But if you say something's fact I want proof, and 'social accceptance' isn't proof.)
Edit - making it clear that this has
nothing to do
with the addon debate. Just when I hear things like 'it's not. They're wrong' it makes me think...
who are you to decide that? You heard
a
few
scientists mention carbon dating and fossilisation and suddenly you're an expert on how old the world is?
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You use the term "devil's advocate", but you obviously don't understand what it means. A "devil's advocate" argues impartially against a line of reasoning irrespective of his own opinions for the purpose of discovering objective truth. Now, that's not what you're doing, for two reasons. First, your goal isn't to discover objective truth, it's to deny it can be known at all - playing the nihilist - which renders the entire process of playing the devil's advocate pointless and futile. Second, you're not arguing objectively irrespective of your opinions, you're using nihilism ("it's all a matter of opinion, we can't really know, matter of preference, etc") as a shill to cling to what you personally believe. So no, you are not a devil's advocate, merely someone very stubborn in being wrong.
For what it's worth, I didn't read him that way. Saying 'your jaded seventh grade science teacher with the bare minimum education and grades necessary to teach who hated her job teaching before she even started is not a
vastly
more useful source of evidence than Jeebus's holy word' is a fairly valid point. I personally get sick of the people who've done absolutely no research at all into the topic, and go around saying creationists are morons. For those people, 'social acceptance' really is the only source of belief
they
have, even if the scientific community has a lot more that they aren't aware of.
How he responds to your bullet points will tell us if he's a devil's advocate or just stubborn.
On topic, because this is ripe for a flame war: To the people who have been fairly staunch in their belief that addons are entirely optional and any good player can do fine with the default UI, what do you think of the fact that Blizzard in recent months has displayed a stronger and stronger tendency to incorporate addon functionality into that same default UI?
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