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141527
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Post by
FarseerLolotea
It would be foolish to overhaul the old world and leave TBC zones on Azaroth untouched.There's a difference between "dumb idea" and "won't happen."
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558752
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Post by
Adamsm
Because of the vocal minority who have been screaming about the Draenei retcon possibly made Blizzard stop to think; but yeah, I'm hoping, if you've already done the starting quests on Bloodmyst on a toon, you'll see the zone cleansed when you return at high levels as it's phased, and if you do it on low levels, you'll see steady phasing as you go through the quest line(the final one on Bloodmyst is still one of the most epic quest lines for the 10-20 range heh, too bad the BE's didn't get something similar).
Post by
FarseerLolotea
I just wonder why Blizzard seems to feel such animosity towards Draenei...
I mean, I seriously doubt it stems fully from the multiple complaints voiced concerning their retconned lore. I mean, It does seem like that there is a significant amount of supporters for Draenei.
It must be something internal... I mean, it's not like
everybody
hates Draenei.I'm seeing two possibilities.
There could be someone on the writing staff who hates draenei and refuses to write them. Or, because the complainers
present
themselves as the majority (and are
very
loud), Blizzard might actually
think
that they are.
If it's the first, they need to fire (or at least reassign) that person's unprofessional butt. (I'm sure if they needed someone to fill the void, they could have their pick of us.) If it's the second, they need to get a
clue
.
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558752
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Post by
FarseerLolotea
Or it could be a combination of the two...Indeed. In which case, they need to fire/reassign said unprofessional butt
and
get a clue. Not necessarily in that order.
But seriously. I can't really see how they could reason for this? It's
completely
ignoring a percentage of the customer base. I mean, it's not like we are asking for a whole zone, or a new city, or something like that for the Draenei. All we want is a bit of their involvement in the game.If the aforementioned vocal minority really
has
convinced them that draenei are that hated, they'd have to get the aforementioned clue before that would even occur to them.
I'd be happy with just a Draenei shaman shrine, a few updated Azuremyst/Bloodmyst quests, and maybe one or two short quest lines involving the space-goats...Well...I'd kind of like an instance, probably on Bloodmyst, in which we get closure on Saruan at the end. Even if that means killing him. But that's probably shooting for the stars.
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558752
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Post by
FarseerLolotea
naw, blizz just didnt give draenei a new class simpy because draenei dont need a new class, that and none of the 3 available classes make sense for draenei. they're fine the way they are.Because blood elves were really hurting for warriors, humans were really hurting for hunters, and tauren paladins/worgen death knights just made
perfect
sense, right? now, dont keep arguing about it, now amount of crying will change blizzards minds, i also doubt that blizz will add anymore new race/class combos, atleast i hope not D:Okay...I've
tried
to give you the benefit of the doubt here. However...
1) You don't have the
right
to tell people not to express their opinions.
2) When you accuse people of crying, whining, QQ, etc., all that proves is that you don't have a good counter-argument, and have just resorted to insults instead.
I just wish the developers weren't so thick-skulled and were more open to suggestions/opinions.
Maybe they heard what they wanted to hear in the outcries against Draenei lore and decided that there were enough people against Draenei to reason for them getting ignored.Maybe. Which would suck...and indicate that many of them don't belong near anything resembling a story...
I don't really mind that we don't get a new class combo... I just want some more Draenei NPCs and quest-givers on Azeroth (
Outside
of Azure/Bloodmyst). Maybe a little reference to them here or there. More involvement in the story is all.Considering the wording of his last post (accusing people of "crying" and essentially telling us to shut up), I think he's trolling.
In fact, he's beginning to sound a bit like Delmarus.
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558752
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Post by
FarseerLolotea
Let's just hope that there is a significant amount of content they haven't shown us that ties Draenei into Cataclysm somehow.
I mean, that shrine like area does share an uncanny resemblance to the Farseer shrine in Nagrand... And they still haven't released any screen-shot for any of the BC start-out zones. Not that they said they would anyway, but still.
I'm still hopeful.They've been purposely dodgy on the topic of draenei, from what I can tell. No new class, but several extensions on a thread. That could be "believe me, you won't
miss
a new alt," or they could be deliberately setting us up for disappointment. At this point, I would not put either past them.
Post by
Adamsm
that draenei druids dont make sense.Except for the entire quest line in Azuremyst where you transform into multiple forms; panther, druid swim form, and the rest heh; it's there, possibly learned from the Stillpine Furbolgs.
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558752
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Post by
FarseerLolotea
i dont understand why you keep calling me that. all im saying is that theres no reason to fret since blizz has made up their minds on this, and that draenei druids dont make sense.Because accusing us of "crying" couldn't possibly have anything to do with that? do you just not like it when people disagree with you on things?This from someone who's told others to quit voicing
their
opinions. Another Delmarus tactic.
im starting to understand why you apparently got banned from the official forums hehe....Oh, be quiet. That was over a blood elf joke and a "first post," and was a
complete
jerk move on their part.
Also: fine words from someone who's likely been banned from Wowhead—where the mods actually know how to do their job—five or six times on five or six separate sock-puppets already...
Except for the entire quest line in Azuremyst where you transform into multiple forms; panther, druid swim form, and the rest heh; it's there, possibly learned from the Stillpine Furbolgs.Indeed, but I'm fairly sure this is Delmarus we're dealing with again.
Well, it basically sounded like you came into a thread that was
about
Draenei involvement in Cataclysm and told us to quit complaining.
When we were obviously discussing the possibilities as to why there appears to be a lack of Draenei involvement in the expansion.We had a recurring troll here who kept making new sock-puppets to dodge bans and was trying to impersonate LupineDruid. I suspect that ShadowWorg is the newest incarnation.
Post by
Adamsm
but i only said it wouldnt work, because well.....its just because draenei are centered around the light, not nature. although, if draenei druids were added, it wouldnt personally bother me :)
Uh... except for the rising trend of Shamans, another Nature based class heh?
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558752
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Post by
Rankkor
that draenei druids dont make sense.Except for the entire quest line in Azuremyst where you transform into multiple forms; panther, druid swim form, and the rest heh; it's there, possibly learned from the Stillpine Furbolgs.
is there like, a forum ignore button, because i really dont like the hostility and accusations from lolotea? if not ill just not respond to him or her. anyway, it could work.
but i only said it wouldnt work, because well.....its just because draenei are centered around the light, not nature. although, if draenei druids were added, it wouldnt personally bother me :)
you quoted addams, only to complain about lolotea?
and then there's this line of yours "draenei are centered arround the light, not nature".......
ok explain then why they have hunters and shamans :P
hey if the draenei broken can be druids (and they can, tehre's several in zangarmarsh) then there's nothing to prevent the draenei normal from being so.
the only classes I absolutely see them NOT taking ever are warlock and rogue, but druid would had made perfect sence for draeneis.
if it was up to me, I wound't had given shamans to the Dwarves, I would had given shamans to the worgens (who are more related to wolves, wich shamans have in common) and rather than give druids to worgens, I would had given that class to draenei.
after all dwarves did got mages :P
but alas, I'm not part of the team that makes such desitions so all I got is wishfull thinking.
(O_o or do I?)
Post by
Adamsm
if it was up to me, I wound't had given shamans to the Dwarves, I would had given shamans to the worgens (who are more related to wolves, wich shamans have in common) and rather than give druids to worgens, I would had given that class to draenei.Well, Blizzard did screw up why the Ironforge Dwarves are becoming shamans, but it does already exist in the Lore with the Wildhammer dwarves heh.
Post by
FarseerLolotea
is there like, a forum ignore button, because i really dont like the hostility and accusations from lolotea?Here's your signature wounded gazelle gambit: complain about
my
hostility when
you're
the one who initially got hostile. if not ill just not respond to him or her.I wish I could believe you. However, with your track record, it's more likely that you'll just start calling me names, and possibly toss out a Godwin.
anyway, it could work.
but i only said it wouldnt work, because well.....its just because draenei are centered around the light, not nature. although, if draenei druids were added, it wouldnt personally bother me :)And there's your signature backpedal!
You always give yourself away, Delmarus/Sorkoth/Foredrore/Znorkel/whatever you're calling yourself now.
And no, I won't call you "Soldrethar" or any variation of the above. He's actually
here
now.
Post by
Rankkor
if it was up to me, I wound't had given shamans to the Dwarves, I would had given shamans to the worgens (who are more related to wolves, wich shamans have in common) and rather than give druids to worgens, I would had given that class to draenei.Well, Blizzard did screw up why the Ironforge Dwarves are becoming shamans, but it does already exist in the Lore with the Wildhammer dwarves heh.
I know ;) but since dwarves already got a new class (mage) it would had been more fair to handle shamans to the worgens, and rather than give druids to worgens, give druids to draenei.
but I supose they NEEDED to add druids to the worgens to make the nightelf-conection in the plot and all that.
funny business that don'cha think? xD is allways the nightelves who manage to bring new races to the alliance..........
Varian should give them a raise or something.
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