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Ashrok
That depends.Are you the one whose farming the herbs and turn them to flasks?Are you interesting in making money out of FL?
for starters you say you are an Elixir master,that means that your flasks have change to proc for 2-10 flasks of your choise which as i can see from ur realms prices its a fair deal for you.
If you wanna roll the Ah for money and as i call it "fast money" the transmutes of meta gems which in my realm are about 55g each meta gem and with the extra procs to create tmore epic gems are atm insanly good profit.I 'm thinkin over to roll a toon just for transmute cause my main char's got jc and the Ah prices keep trying to empty my pocket.
Another thing for consideration is are you raiding enough to need lots of flasks not only for you but for your guildmates also?
In my guild we got several alchemists who each one have their own specialization and its rather convenient to co-exist with each other,1 makes the procced flasks the other the extra potions we need in our raids and the transmutes that we jcrafters turning into gems for our gear.But this is how we done,doing so far.If you want to fend only for yourself and keep making enormous amounts of money then roll transmute,mean time flasks will still sell in AH a lot cause ppl that making PUG's and not having a guild to provide them freely from the gbank will want them badly.
It s up to you to decide in the end and weight your options:
Flasks-->raiders,some time you ll see them in bgs also
Transmute-->if you got any friend with jc they ll gonna /love you for the extra procs and AH's make it up for you
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brrobid
Well, you told us a little about your flask economy, but not the whole story. And you told us nothing about your xmute economy.
Because there's no elixir proc CD, to limit your production, elixir master has a higher upside.
The more elixirs you can make (read: sell), the higher profit you have to be able to make on xmutes.
Let's use your flask numbers, but I'll have to make some additional assumptions. On my server I won't pay more than 1g per additional mat. Frost Wyrm and Endless Rage have 10 mats (10g), plus 80s for the vial (call it 1g).
So: 65g (FL) + 11g = 76g (2 flasks). Selling 2 flasks for 80g (your price 40g x2), minus AH cut of 5% = 76g. You're breaking dead even. Which means your procs are your profit margin. You can't be in the flask business at these prices, unless you're an elixir master.
Let's make the math easy, and say elixir procs give you a 20% boost in your final product. If you only make 10 flasks, that means, that means you have 2 bonus flasks to sell. Which represents a 76g profit.
But, what happens when you make 20 flasks? 20% of 20 is 4, so you have 152g profit. So you can see the economy of scale there. The more you make (as elixir master) the higher your total profit.
Epic gems are on a 1 day (effectively) CD, and they don't proc every day. Meta gems aren't on CD. Since we don't know the market for gems, I can't go through the exercise for you. But hopefully, you've seen how to do the math, and can work it out for yourself.
So .. which business should you be in?
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Ashrok
Alchemists as i have searched so far and i m not 100% sure about that but the meta gems are being made from transmutation see earthsiege and skyflare diamond(gems for meta cuts)
so these are a huge profit out of alchemist and the extra procs from the specialization.Let s say that you originally can make 1 transmute as 2 flasks with no specialization.
Elixir specialization gives you the chance to proc from 2 flasks over to 10(mats that you originally make only 2,so it s like 2-10x40 per creation that leads to 80-400g from a single proc)
Transmute mastery will give you more procs on epic gems and meta also.Again with the mats of 1 you ll get more.
Imo for money i ll go transmute cause every single character needs the gems even jewelers that wanna lvl-up their prof are gonna buy a lot and are atm sure money.
But i would stick with the elixir master for the extra procs on flasks for my raiding and sell the non-proc gems i'm making for the gold.
Remember thought that s not a diffent proffesion we discussing about but one original and what specialization you are asking for.If you gather your mats and it s easy for you to go transmute go transmute for money if not check the prices which you gonna need for the transmutation and if its really worthing to spend for them or not.
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Wildhorn
It should reduce their price by about 25%.
Post by
Jestic85
It was announced today that frost lotus drop has increased by 50%. This should make it a lot cheaper on AH.
It is really a
slight increase
, so we may see more drop but nothing compared to the pygmy fish increase (I still have that stuff crawling in my bags when wotlk released I would spend 20 mins fishing to catch maybe 3-5 of them)
Going by wowhead DB drop rate (may not be completely accurate) but for sake of math, on avg it is a 5% Drop rate. 50% of 5% is.... 0.025 or 2.5%, so now its more like 7.5% drop rate.
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brrobid
I don't care about the price of Frost Lotus, except as it relates to the price of flasks. That's really all that matters when talking about FL prices.
Would I pay 100g for a Frost Lotus? If the price of flasks supported it, absolutely. What would that look like?
For me, the cost of the additional flask mats (lichbloom, vial, etc) is 11g. So, 100g for FL + 11g = 111g for two flasks (assume no procs). Include AH cut of 5% and we see that 58.5g per flask is about 20s profit.
An elixir master who doesn't need to siphon procs off for raiding can make decent money at those prices. But if you're a Xmute master, you need either lower priced FL or higher priced flasks (or both) to be in the flask market.
Lowering the price of FL is all well and good. But what I really want to know is what's going to happen to the flask market. More FL, means more flasks. On my server, there's a limited market for flasks. If sellers flood the market then prices will drop too far, making the market useless to flask sellers ... at least for a while.
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