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Post by
ZachUSAman
Zach USA man
my rogue; been upgrading gear and well, that
Fury of the Five Flights
is beginning to look awfully tacky....
the problem being,is that first of all.. deaths verdict is avoiding me like a plague; not only that, but so is the
Deathbringer's Will
. aside from these two, is there any other trinkets that would be a suitable upgrade for me? the problem with most trinkets is that there these cheesy 20 seconds of 1k AP junk every 20 seconds. thats nice and all, but the passive 320ap from the fury is awesome, and superior IMO.
or... am i going about this the wrong way? helps meh!
Post by
Liquoid
Try spreadsheeting Mark of Supremacy / Shard of the Crystal Heart.
Post by
ZachUSAman
Try spreadsheeting Mark of Supremacy / Shard of the Crystal Heart.
neither were upgrades to dps. 128 hit rating isnt much, and the +1024 ap or +552 haste only last 20 seconds, theres 120 seconds where im not getting anything from either. seems like the "passive" 320AP prevails still.
Post by
Liquoid
LDW 10 trinket a.k.a. MoT 2.0?
Post by
KidB
Fury of the five flights is a downgrade to both MoS and SotCH. This was obvious right off the bat so I started wondering if you were full of *!@# when you said you checked the spreadsheet. I plugged your gear in and I was right.
FotFF
MoS
SotCH
I realize I forgot to switch the race to human, but it only makes up less than one dps of a difference due to blood fury not being modeled.
Post by
ZachUSAman
Fury of the five flights is a downgrade to both MoS and SotCH. This was obvious right off the bat so I started wondering if you were full of *!@# when you said you checked the spreadsheet. I plugged your gear in and I was right.
FotFF
MoS
SotCH
I realize I forgot to switch the race to human, but it only makes up less than one dps of a difference due to blood fury not being modeled.
orly now...
>.> i dont understand that...
why would having +1024 ap for about 20 seconds or 552 haste rating for about 20 seconds
and then nothing for the next 100 seconds be better than 320 ap constantly?
oh, and im using the java spreadsheet, didnt have my trinket, and a dps test i did showed that my dps was higher with FotFF.
do they take in the 100 seconds of no 1024 ap, or do they just average the 1024ap over the period of time?
Post by
Wanderingfox
1024ap for 20 seconds every 120 seconds
uptime: 20 seconds / 120 seconds = 16% uptime
1024 ap w/ 16% uptime = 1024 * .16 = 170.66 passive AP
128 hit + 170.66 ap is > 320 ap constantly.
Using EJ's pocket guide EP
weights
, the mark is worth (128hit * 1.84) + (170.66ap * 1) = 406.18 EP, while the Fury is only worth (320ap * 1) = 320 EP.
edit:
Same thing for the shard:
552 haste for 20 seconds every 120 seconds
uptime: 20 seconds / 120 seconds = 16% uptime
552 haste w/ 16% uptime = 552 * .16 = 88.32 passive Haste
Using the same weights as the mark, the shard is worth (128hit * 1.84) + (88.32haste * 1.9) = 403.33 EP, while the Fury is still only worth (320ap * 1) = 320 EP
Note: Weights used are the generalized weights from the pocket guide. The spreadsheet will provide more specific results. I'm just illustrating a point
Post by
ZachUSAman
eh, works for me i guess....
Post by
Wanderingfox
Then you're either: not hitting the trinket on cooldown, you have enough hit rating to devalue white hit to under 1.17 EP, or your DPS test was flawed.
Post by
ZachUSAman
Then you're either: not hitting the trinket on cooldown, you have enough hit rating to devalue white hit to under 1.17 EP, or your DPS test was flawed.
sorry, meant that i would be using the mark of supremacy trinket instead of FotFF.
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