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Lock Tapping and Healers that won't heal - HELP!
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Lohr
It doesn't bother me to heal you while your life tapping. Although, keep in mind as healers all we do is look at health bar so sseeing you drop 50% hp is kind of scary for us. I've seen locks have a macro that says they are life tapping as an emote? Probably want to give that a try ..
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anywherenotes
I'm very aware on my lock that some healers don't like lifetap. I've never been told to not do it - I actually was told sometimes 'lifetap all you want', but I don't like to abuse it, or distract healer from tank.
What I do is I lifetap once at about 50% mana. Than I look if there's a heal coming, and if it's a hot, I keep lifetapping making sure that hot will heal me back up. If it's a direct heal, I just wait until I need more mana. I also usually lifetap right after the pull (if mana is below 80%) and right before a new pull (this way it activates my glyph too).
I'm not raiding really, this is my alt, so not sure of how raids would work. That's what I do in heroics.
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Post by
Kalisha
Life tap is an integral part of a warlock's arsenal. It's not some magical spell only for soloing or annoying your healer. There are even
glyphs
to make it more appealing. This new crop of healers that rage at a warlock for doing what a warlock does... they confuse me.
That said, waiting until the end of a fight and tapping your entire health bar away can get a bit irritating. Healers (myself included) tend to panic when we see someone's health go
woosh
, especially if we're also trying to recompose ourselves after a fight.
As others have mentioned, it's usually better to life tap in moderation during the fight itself - your healer likely won't even notice and will attribute it to normal damage. (Unless you get one of those, "I don't heal dps EVER," people. In which case, there are bigger problems than life tapping.) And if the healer's mana is low (which is always a good thing to watch) it gives you a chance to drain some health back yourself.
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GenXCub
This is so funny, this is one of my biggest complaints with Locks. I always put Wisdom on Locks and they always cry for Kings or Might, I say no problem, but if I catch you LTing, back goes the Wisdom. I certainly don't mind healing them while in a fight and they are LTing. Its when we are done fighting, and I am sitting down drinking, and the Lock is just LTing away to fill up with mana. If I am sitting to drink, the Lock better be sitting right next to me drinking. Its just disrespectful to LT away when he could sit down and have a drink just like me.
BoW is useless because warlocks are designed to blow through mana quickly. In a 20 second span, they'll unload 8-10k mana. BoW will only give what, like 368 mana in that same 20 seconds, and how long to regen that 8k mana just with BoW?
I agree that at the end of fights, especially if there was a mage table dropped, they should drink when other people drink, but if no one's drinking, rather than hold up the party, they should use LT. It was given to them for a reason. Tossing 1 heal to make the process go faster should be the healer's job because they gear themselves for mana regen.
Feel free to be indignant that he's not drinking when other people are, but if you're using a worthless buff as a threat, that's not right. You're lowering the dps of the party.
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Braevia
A few things to keep in mind, OP:
1. If you zoom out, the numbers from Rain of Fire won't blind you so much.
2. Level 50ish healers are learning their role, the same as you are. And unlike you, they don't have the luxury of their party role being similar to their solo role. They are, in all likelihood, struggling to keep their focus on the tank. Be patient, and try talking to THEM about the problem instead of complaining to us.
3. Frankly, if you were lifetapping yourself to 1hp after a fight where I had to sit and drink, I'm not sure I would heal you either. Not out of spite, but simply because it's not on my mind...clearly we've taken a mana break, so you can drink like everyone else. This is assuming I was level 50, and new to healing.
At 80, it's simply a matter of fact that my mana regen will be better than your's (assuming natural regen, not including lifetap) and a flash heal that costs me ~600 mana is worth about 3K mana to you from lifetaps. Is it annoying to constantly babysit Warlocks and nursefeed them mana? Sure, a little bit. And it certainly seems unnecessary to do so between fights, when we're all resetting anyway. But it's silly to refuse to do it.
It's never a top priority though. Raise the dead, check the loot drops, consider the loot drops, roll on the loot drops, heal the recently raised, then drop a Renew on the Warlock :P
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archmiffo
Personally I would say life tapping is ok, but use it smart. If you're being an idiot about prepare to pay repair costs.
At lower levels the healers mana trade off for yours are far more tangiable than at level 80.
I once (in lower levels) had a lock that kept on blasting all he had and lifetapping everything so he could blast again. I managed to keep him up and the rest of the party, but after the fight when I needed to take a manabreak he started to complain about me not managing my mana.
He didnt get more heals from me after that. At all. Ever again. For eternity.
As some has said before, use it smart, if you see the healer are already busy withe tank/melee use some of your own health regen, or just dont use the most mana intesive spells until the healer seems to get a handle on things and can throw you a bone. It might draw back on your DPS, but then again doing it may save the party because you're not dead and can still do damage.
I dont mind healing lifetaps, but if the lock is tapping himself to death I do tell them to use it more wisely.
It basically comes down to being a good teamplayer, which unfortunately is a dying way of playing nowadays in general.
Life tap is an integral part of a warlock's arsenal.
It sure is, but it doesnt mean that it has to be used ad nauseum. That is the problem healers have with lifetap. Its when locks dont
use
lifetap, but
abuse
it.
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pezz
As a healer it's annoying when a Lock life taps way the hell down either during a fight, when everyone else around them is drinking, or right before a fight with AoE so I have to Holy Light them and pick up aggro off the tank just doing a body pull.
And as a general rule, healers don't like it when you try to see how quickly you can get your health down to 1 at any time. Raid healers should feel obligated to deal with one or two life taps done at not stupid times during and between fights, though. It's such a minor thing and integral to keep the DPS going strong.
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noriegga
I thought rain of fire was bad?
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justinc
Just had a healer like that. "Keep lifetapping and you will see that I already have a hard enough of a time keeping my mana up so I refuse to heal you if you're too lazy to drink." I was maintaining 800 ish DPS which considerably more than everyone else and I typically did 1.5 times the damage of the entire group (65 lock).
@noriegga- Rain of Fire is a lock's best AoE atm...
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champkind
as a healer the main problem i run into with life tap is, its being used at the wrong times. Ive seen locks go an entire pull and only tap once or twice, thats fine by me. It`s when i sit to drink between pulls and you life tap to full mana and expect to be healed that gets me. if I have time to drink, you have time to drink.
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Kalisha
That is the problem healers have with lifetap. Its when locks dont use lifetap, but abuse it.
I am, and always have been, a healer. I know the problems, and occasional related annoyances, that come along with it - hence the entire rest of my post detailing what the 'lock in training might want to take into consideration when learning to in's and out's of life tapping.
What I take issue with are all of these self-important healers that seem to be popping up courtesy of the the new random dungeon feature that assume they have the authority (and the know how) to tell other people how to play their class. Even more so when they're handing out wrong information that would be laughed at by the majority of veteran players.
Warlocks are meant to use life tap. Warlocks not only gain mana to continue dealing damage, but also gain a damage buff. Read up on warlocks -
life tap is part of the normal rotation
. A warlock stopping dps to sit back and drain life in normal circumstances would be laughed out of any halfway decent raid. Of course it's a moot point when the healer is having mana issues... but this is why I already said it's always a good idea to keep an eye on your healer's mana.
I always feel a bit bad for warlocks in my groups these days. I shouldn't have to pat them on the head and tell them it's ok to use a spell they're supposed to be using anyway, which I inevitably end up doing. If I can't heal them at the time, they don't get a heal. I think most warlocks are aware of that. (And if they're life tapping to within an inch of their life, I'll likely bludgeon them to death. Or at the very least say nasty things and giggle behind their back in guild chat.)
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