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s1ngul4rity
Gear score sucks. i have been kicked from raids because i have had the lowest gear score and the heals were failing. out of the 5 healers in our group i was healing more than 3 of them, but since i had the lowest gear score, i was the one who got replaced.
however in defense of gear score, i can provide a prediction of what the players skill should be
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barbeque
I have gearscore installed for some time already, but I never let anyone know I have GS, nor make any comments about the GS of players. From a DPS perspective, I use it as an observation tool to benchmark how much DPS a player can pull, vs their GS value. The reason that I do this is a general curiosity about the skill level of the player population, as well as a desire to benchmark my own DPS against other players of a similar gear level. (I suspect I tend to underperform)
This is what I have actually observed.
Those with a high GS (say, more than 5k, although these days the bar is getting raised again) tend to know what they're doing. From time to time, I observe geared players slacking, or simply doing the wrong stuff. A very few times, I have witnessed geared players doing absolutely pathetic damage and underperforming for their gear level.
Many people with a low GS (sub 3k), tend not to be familiar with their class. In many cases, Rankwatch screams to me that they are not even using the highest rank of spells available to them. Many also fall into a middle band, where they perform adequately for their gear level, but are not overly outstanding nor terrible. In a very few cases, I have seen some players with a low GS pulling very respectable DPS, significantly more than what I would expect from them.
Make of that what you will.
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barbeque
gear has les and les to do with DPS/skil realy.
Now I'm almost ful ToC25geared, a ToGC25piece, 2 Ilv251 pieces, nothing to shabby
But I topped the damagemeter in ICC25 on first bos BY 1.5K!
Seriously, some people are just idiots, it's obvious we didn't down him, tanks died for some reason and the bos proceeded to smash my face in :(.
It sounds like you were busy DPSing the boss while your raid members were trying to down the bone spikes. Grats on your higher DPS, but now you know why :)
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Sentrios
There are many kinds of ppl in the game, I've seen our guild's MT getting kicked for having "too low hp to tank voa" when he has 45k or so unbuffed.
Just a thought, if you were the leader, would you invite a guy who has full 5/5 pieces T9 (ilevel 232, better gearscore) or the guy who has full T8.5 (ilvl 226, lower gearscore) to your raid?
Post by
Rubendesmet619
gear has les and les to do with DPS/skil realy.
Now I'm almost ful ToC25geared, a ToGC25piece, 2 Ilv251 pieces, nothing to shabby
But I topped the damagemeter in ICC25 on first bos BY 1.5K!
Seriously, some people are just idiots, it's obvious we didn't down him, tanks died for some reason and the bos proceeded to smash my face in :(.
It sounds like you were busy DPSing the boss while your raid members were trying to down the bone spikes. Grats on your higher DPS, but now you know why :)
agreed, bad players are bad, which is obvious in that you wiped to the FIRST boss, he's free loot, the rest of the instance is as well, but not to the extent of marrowgar.
HAHA
I did out of the top 5 DPS(only ones worth mentioning as they were the only ones above 4k) the most damage to spikes.
Thanks for wanne sound smart though but seriously /fail.
I was at 7k, second one was at 5.5k, the next 3 were mostly above 4k but the others were AL below it, some even did lower then the tank.
I'm not afraid to say I know wtf I'm doing thank you(yes, there're more people on this forum except for yourself that can play)
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Kailhun
Gearscore is a better indicator of what a player has done than achievements. I have quite a few Heroic Northrend achievements, but know sod all about the instance. I just followed instructions: when this happens, do this; target boss until adds appear or ignore adds; and of course: don't stand in the bad stuff. Quite often I don't know why I have to stand somewhere or why I have to take out adds. Simply because I don't run the instances enough.
As a hunter I usually get the 'get the adds before they reach the boss'-jobs.
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Kailhun
Skill>gear
If this were true then a well played rogue in tier 7 would out dps a mediocre rogue in tier 10...obviously that's not the case.
The theoretical-dps of the rogue may be higher, but is the actual dps higher? A rogue who targets the wrong mob (boss instead of adds) or who dies (e.g. because he doesn't get out of the bad stuff) does 0 effectual dps.
Rogue: 'hooray, I killed ten rats.'
Party: 'Great. How about attacking the boss?'
Post by
Rubendesmet619
Obviously you know what you're doing, which is why you wiped on Marrowgar. nuff said.
A DPS can prevent the tanks from dieing, true story...
Post by
Forest
Gearscore do not define a good player, Ive met alot of players with low gearscore which do alot better than people with high gearscore. And in my opinion was gearscore something of the worst thing blizzard could add to this game.
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Post by
drmilo
It doesn't added by the Blizzard, it is an addon.
http://www.gearscoreaddon.com/
And i think shows the player/his guild succes mainly. And has some wasd skill too, while low GS ppl not sure.
And 1 sample: 5 ppl 5k+ gs do 1 daily hc in 10 min, 5 ppl at 3k gs do it in 30 min.
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Rubendesmet619
It was a PuG yes :p, quited raiding second week of 3.3 after I cleared it twice on both 25 en 10men(main+alt).
Sadly nobody that is half decent PuG's ICC so far, kinde sucks.
Ow and atm I'm not in a guild, I'm focussing on leveling some alts atm :p.
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