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Well, first of all, I didn't wake up one day and be like 'Hey, I think I'm going to like boys AND girls!" It isn't a choice, it's something that is out of the persons control like hair, skin, or eye colour.
Also, saying being gay is wrong because you can't produce children is just lame. Most older lesbian couples I know have gotten artificial insemination, or if they are infertile, they've adopted. Same with gay men that I know, they have either adopted or had a woman carry their child for them.
And... nature doesn't stop flaws in genetics. Cancer, leukemia, sickle cell anemia.. things like these all still exist. Nature doesn't weed out the flawed genes.
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Cancer and Leukemia are not genes; they're mutations. As for Sickle Cell Anemia, that's an interesting one. Sickle Cell Anemia is both good and bad. The reasons why it's bad are obvious but the reason why it's good at the same time is because carriers of this disease are highly resistant to Malaria. In places like Africa and other areas with Malaria, being a carrier of this disease is what could possibly save you.
You're absolutely right though; nature doesn't always weed out the flawed genes.
Really? I did a project in biology about sickle cell anemia, but I didn't know that.
I was just using cancer and lieukemia as examples because laginging was talking about homophobia as a mutation as well. The fact that nature doesn't stop these mutations from happening goes hand in hand with not stopping flawed genes, I just guess I should have worded that better. ;)
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Adamsm
Again, 'gay' has existed since we fell out of the trees, it exists in the animal kingdom, so how then laginging, do the animal's choose to be with the same gender?
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Gammosh
I found that scene funny...
but I think homoism is wrong...because the anus is not a sexual organ...so the "key is not for this lock"
Its the sexual equivalent of using a lockpick to open a door...wrong...
So you're saying that man and man is wrong, but woman and woman is right ?
Oh yah...Oh HELL yah...
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dont you love it when its fine for a game to show somebody being ripped to shreds in great detail, yet, sex is still something that is considered too naughty to view?
Always.
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Gorefiend
1-like I said I don't know much on psychology.
Then shut up
2-A mutation happening in the same place repeatedly is highly unlikely , especially with the high number of gays.
Are you familiar with Down Syndrome? You aware of how many people are born EVERY DAY with it? It's a mutation. It's an extra chromosome, actually, if you want to know specifics. Mutations happen all the damn time. Don't talk about genetics until you've studied and know your facts.
3- Nature wouldn't try to lower our population through genes,it would let us die out then restart from the small amount of people alive.
You speak like nature is a thinking, reasoning individual. Don't personify nature; it's wrong. Nature doesn't kill things because it thinks they are unfit to live. Things that are unfit to live die out and people go on to blame nature for it. Are you saying gays are unfit to live?
4-Many animals use homosexual acts to reinforce positions of power and to strengthen social bonds, they do however have heterosexual sex for increasing the population.We as humans , who have language, don't need to resort to such crude methods to enforce authority.
You're absolutely right. Some animals DO have homosexual acts to enforce power. But they also have homosexuals just like humans do; as in, there are male animals who just like screwing other male animals. Rams are just as gay as humans, it's been proven. (10% of the population)
5-Me not understanding something=/= it doesn't exist.
This isn't even a proper arugement for what Gorefiend said. It's quite clear we cannot beat the idea that homosexuality isn't a choice into your head, so I'm just going to skim past this, because I'm in too much of a rush to join in a lost cause.
6- People with cystic fibrosis can still have children . And by your post did you mean that non-fertile people can still continue to pass it on if it's genetic?
Sterility is still mostly unknown. And I'm not talking about disease-related. Some people are just less fertile than others. A friend of mine had sex with her fiance for two years without any kind of birth control and didn't even come close to being pregnant once. It's unknown if it's genetic or is able to be passed down. I'm not going to pretend to know much about cystic fibrosis, so I'll move on.
Cancers are not complete body mutations , they can't be passed on.
I really have no idea you've said this, and I'm too lazy to scroll back up and read why you've said this, but I'm sure it's wrong anyway. lolz
Natural selection means negatively affecting genes are removed, for nature not reproducing is negative, and as said before about 40%of gay men reproduce.Nature weeds the negative genes out , mutations may occur to cause it to reappear then nature takes it out again,
STOP. PERSONIFYING. NATURE.
Humans are intelligent. Humans are evolved. We can
get around nature
. Homosexuality is not going to be stamped out because they aren't able to reproduce with their partners. Gay men can donate sperm or have a surrogate, and gay women can get donated sperm. Humans can get around nature.
and mutations in the same place are very unlikely and since there are different genes for men than women again it wouldn't be very rare.
We've been over the whole mutation thing (although I'm sure you'll choose to either ignore it or use your twisted logic to somehow "prove it wrong"), but you're talking about genes here. Genes are different for every person, but follow the same pattern for all of the same species. If homosexuality is something to do with genes, the same gene will be missing or duplicated or whatever in the same place in everyone, men and women. Again, don't talk about genetics when you very clearly haven't studied them. And I'm not talking a lecture in your 3rd period Biology class. I took a Genetics course in college. And passed it. Full marks.
All choices are not instant, I didn't chose to be dragged here, but it happened and there was nothing to do . Choices are gradual.
Um...what? I choose to scratch my head now. *scratches head* That was instant. Some choices are gradual, some are instant. Not sure why we're talking about choices in a homosexuality topic, but I guess I can choose not to have sex with a gay man. I mean, I'd make that choice pretty instantly, personally.
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but I think homoism is wrong...because the anus is not a sexual organ...so the "key is not for this lock"
Actually, the prostate is considered to be the "male g-spot". The only way to stimulate the prostate is in the rectum, so really, it's more of a sexual organ than what the strange things straight men have been known to stick their willies into.
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I now hate wowhead , I wrote a long essay and it just dropped.damn.Here goes again.
I wont answer Erlinn because Then shut up
I really have no idea you've said this, and I'm too lazy to scroll back up and read why you've said this, but I'm sure it's wrong anyway. lolz
Um...what? I choose to scratch my head now. *scratches head* That was instant.
Some choices are gradual,
some are instant. Not sure why we're talking about choices in a homosexuality topic, but I guess I can choose not to have sex with a gay man. I mean, I'd make that choice pretty instantly, personally.
The itallic part is in answer to a correct thing, he just goes , lol ur wrong in everything lol.
The bold part proves that just because it was gradual doesn't mean it wasn't choice.
Wow. See this is why I shouldn't have done this. People like you infuriate me. I had hope for a good, rousing debate. Unfortunatley you went the direction of "ignore everyone someone says against your point".
The itallic part, if you actually read it, is me admitting that I didn't look up your almost completely irrelvant statement about cancer because I'm lazy. The "lolz" is a clear indicator of sarcasm. You might be right, I wouldn't know, I didn't actually read anything about.
About choices not being gradual, you've actually stumped me with your pig-headedness. I'll just go on to say again, I don't know why we're discussion choices in a homosexuality topic.
But I'm sure you'll come up with a way to ignore this post as well, I'm sure you'll back down
again
when someone who knows what they're talking about (not saying Gorefiend isn't, but I'm assuming he/she hasn't admitted to having formally studying genetics as I have) comes up to debate against you, who, as far as I can tell, is just pulling stuff out of their ass.
Most of the stuff you said to Gorefiend in your post I argued in mine. Maybe next time you won't wimp out. Who knows.
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