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Post by
Skreeran
It'd really be a shame for Brox, the lesser liked of the two (and Knaak's creation >:|), gets this epic death, and Saurfang, the even more awesome hero of the Horde, gets brought down by some necromantically powered human upstart.
Besides, losing Thrall, Cairne, and Saurfang, and getting Garrosh instead would just be cruel.
Post by
Adamsm
Heh, your not 'losing' Thrall as he's heading off to deal with a threat which could end the world.... of Warcraft.
Cairne still hasn't been confirmed that he is dead, just 'missing' as well.
Saurfang, don't borrow trouble.
But yeah Garrosh is a %^&*!@.
Post by
R1TeR
Garrosh is a pretty cool guy lol
Post by
Skreeran
i think hellscream is a pretty cool guy. eh thinks its okay to kills draenei kids and doesn't afraid of anything.
And Adams, we're losing Thrall as Warchief (essentially getting the whole "your hero is now neutral" thing that the Alliance constantly gets stuck with), which isn't
that
bad. Cairne either dies or leaves for somewhere else. We essentially lose him. And we get everyone's least favorite orc as Warchief (who Blizzard promises will change before Cata, but he declares war on the Alliance for no particular reason, so he can't have changed that much).
Losing Saurfang too would just suck.
Post by
R1TeR
lol, seriously tho if there wasent a Garrosh who the hell would we be flaming in all these posts
?Varian lol
Post by
chase123
Last i checked Saurfang and Muradin are only stated to be in the airship fight.
King Chin, Tirion, and Dorian's role in the instance has not been confirmed yet.
The only person that is gonna die in ICC is Arthas imo and no, Sylvanas and Jaina are not gonna die either in the 5 man.
As far as the whole character story arc bull, Velen didnt die in Sunwell and that was supposed to be the end of his story after getting revenge on his old friend.
The question should be, whos gonna be the super secret boss in WOTLK.
Vanilla had Kel'thuzad, BC had KJ, and WOTLK will have Kael'thas :D.
Post by
Zenanor
But if WoTLK gets Kael'thas who will then be the boss after Deathwing in Cataclysm?
Post by
Adamsm
As far as the whole character story arc bull, Velen didnt die in Sunwell and that was supposed to be the end of his story after getting revenge on his old friend.Huh? Velen was never suppose to die, and he's not about revenge, never has been never will be.
Post by
HiVolt
You know, I just had a thought. Wars are often the products of misunderstanding right?
Could it be that when Thrall appoints Garrosh, Saurfang is leading the attack on Icecrown, dies, and Garrosh blames it on the Alliance without knowing all the facts?
Seems like that's something he'd do. Not saying it's a good thing, but it would give him a reason to go to war.
Post by
R1TeR
makes sense and makes it seem like they were at least friends
Post by
taurenmoo812
I'm sorry but I have to disagree. As a point Skreeran made, in terms of how things will happen in cataclysm, Saurfang would play an important role in the next expan with the terms of horde leadership being brought under fire, and he, as a commander of the horde, would be most outspoken against Garrosh's plan to make the horde into a darker one.I really hope they update Saurfang's page with "Cataclysm" info soon, like they did Sylvanas, unless..... Blizz is getting lazy again and decides that all three Saurfang's need to die "epic" deaths; Brox vs Sargeras, The Younger with the pwn from the Lich King, Saurfang taking out the Lich King but going down at the same time.
But still, I think it's Tirion, for the multiple reasons I've said through the thread.
Actully.. I'm gonna be honest here.. Saurfang Jr didn't die an epic death like his uncle Brox did. Brox died on a mountain of demons he killed and injurying Sergeras well preventing the demons from entering the portal... Saurfang Jr just died from one blow against the lich king.
And him coming back as a deathknight in icecrown you need to fight to 'free' him from the lich king doesn't make up for his crummy death as Arthas's hands.
Post by
Adamsm
Saurfang Jr didn't die an epic death like his uncle Brox did.Depends on your defination and view point: He got wtfpwn'ed by the Lich King, and it was epic.... for Scourge lovers heh.
Post by
Rankkor
it wound't make much sence for anyone on that list to die exept tirion and darion (heh, even their names are similar)
Saurfang was introduced for vainilla wow's raid An'quiraj, he really has nothing to do with northrend, his life isn't particulary ruined or touched by the scourge (before his son getting killed by arthas of course) and even then he was added to northrend for the pure reason that he's a badass like no other person regardless of chin want's to.
he's the kind of character that you can mingle into any plot arc, and it would make a lot more sence for him to die fighting against the legion in their stronghold in a future expantion than getting killed against an enemy he's not related to.
that and the fact that it would be kinda "unbalanced" to have a faction character getting killed in icecrown, for the sake of balance it would be best if a neutral one dies.
because of those reasons, I think neither muradin nor saurfang will die.
the most likely choises are darion and tirion.
not only both of them are greatly related to the scourge (darion even more than tirion) but both were added presicely due to the plot-arc of the scourge.
I mean really what would tirion do in cataclysm? he's a paladin, he's all about smithing undead, what purpuse would the argent crusade have in the cataclysmic end of the world?
what would darion do in cataclysm? his entire order exists only to kill the lich king, and as we know, no matter how bad they want to, the world willl NEVER accept them, after arthas is dead I really don't see what will become of them, but they really aren't related to deathwing or the cataclysm at all.
because of it, it would make a lot more sence to remove these 2 that are too tied up to 1 threat to be usefull in other threats.
Saurfang on the other hand, he was awesome in anquiraj, he was awesome in WOTLK; and he's gonna be still awesome in cataclysm, he's just that kind of flexible character adaptable to any danger trown at him.
and I really don't know why u added varian to the list since he's a confirmed character in cataclysm, that would make as much sence as adding sylvannas to that list.
anywho, my money is on 60% Darion, 40% Tirion
Post by
Adamsm
and I really don't know why u added varian to the list since he's a confirmed character in cataclysm, that would make as much sence as adding sylvannas to that list.Extreme long shot.... and a joke.
Post by
taurenmoo812
and I really don't know why u added varian to the list since he's a confirmed character in cataclysm, that would make as much sence as adding sylvannas to that list.Extreme long shot.... and a joke.
You just secretly wanted to have another Varian debate here didn't you? Admit it
And what Rankkor said, indeed, Darion does strike me as the most likely to die in there, for several reasons being, after the opening quests in icecrown with the phased argent stage bit, we lose track of him, except for the odd quest he appears like at the citadel of darkness, so as a standing character he's not held anywhere now like an npc or quest giver.
Saying that Tirion and his war on the scourge is about to draw to a dramatic end, as this is all he faught for against his traitor prince, seeing his homeland corrupted by him.
Maybe it'll be something like Tirion battles to lich king but falls to him, in the last moments Darion picks ups the Ashbringer, it does a OVER 9000 thing and he become alive again and lolpwns the lich king, then tirion gives his last words.
Post by
Adamsm
You just secretly wanted to have another Varian debate here didn't you? Admit itHardly, I have a
thread
for that remember heh.
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Post by
Rankkor
I'd bet on Tirion, not Darion. The Ebon Blade only have Darion as their leader, with players allowed to be DKs, it'd be annoying to have him removed. Tirion, however, is the only leader of the Argent Dawn, but the Argent Dawn doesn't have a purpose beyond LK. They strive to defeat the Scourge, which will be defeated, then what? They're done and Tirion's death would be an exclaimation point for that. They may stick around to vanquish random confused Scourge leftovers, but that's not enough to keep the faction alive. I'm pretty sure ICC is the last we'll see of the Argent Dawn and their crusade.
whoa, that's a really good rock solid point, I hadn't tought about.
and even when it's not confirmed or hinted that anyone will die on ICC, search "the worg effect" on google or wikipedia to know what I mean.
it's a tendency where in order to increase the sence of danger in a videogame, movie, comic, or tv show where a powerfull badguy show up they do the following.
the badguy easily wihtout much effort manages to take out a badass character, one that's usually considered to be very strong, and hard to take down.
in order to enphatise how powerfull arthas is, he's gonna kill some NPC's on the encouter, and a few random nameless NPC's aint gonna cut it, it has to be someone both important and really strong and badass to make a true impact on the players.
just look at the instance Pit of Saron, the leader there, Scourgelord Tyranus is not an important character, and even then he get's the worg effect, jaina/sylvannas sends a full army of alliance/horde soldiers to take him out, and he 1-shots them all without breaking a single sweat (only to be himself take out by 5 plp xD)
Post by
Skreeran
That's called
The Worf Effect
, and the character in question usually doesn't die.
I think
Sacrificial Lion
fits pretty well too.
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