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451455
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Post by
Adamsm
What I meant by that was that how she let a former enemy purge her own city and slaugheter the same soldiers who agreed to follow her into Kalimdor. That is just a plain A-holeShe did her best to keep her soldiers out of the battle for Durotar, but short of placing them all under house arrest, she couldn't have done much. A few deaths as opposed to the Horde wiping Theramore off the face of the planet......
Enslaved? What are you talking about? They willingly drank the demon blood! They were decived into going into Azeroth! They were lead by in the second war by a orc who was not under the blood haze!They were decieved for the Draenor war and the first War by Blackhand and the Shadow council, primairly by Gul'dan who was working hand in hand with first Kil'jaeden on Draenor, then Medivh/Sargeras on Azeroth. Doomhammer did his best to cut down on needless deaths, but as it was a "war" that's hard to do. Yes the Horde burned down massive parts of the Elf lands, caused a enormus damage, but Doomhammer did his best to keep it from being the same as the orginal Horde.
So........... ENOUGH! This is about the new info, stop dragging the old stuff through, it's in the past, discuss what is occuring now please.
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451455
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Post by
Rankkor
gnomes do get involved in the plot now, they get gnomer back, and I'm asuming other major figures will show up, now that they finnaly became believes of the holy light.
me, I'm gonna do what I do best on this game: QUEST.
when cataclysm is released, I'll make yet another horde alt (goblin) and alliance alt (worgen) to experience the new lvl 1-60 leveling curve, after all we can safely asume that all of the pre-bc quests will be gone when cataclysm is released, so getting all the way from 1 to 80 will be quite a new experience.
my shammy will of course remain as my main toon, and the only one I'll level to 85, and gear in raids and all that jazz.
also on the goblins vs alliance sorry to break the bubble dark, but it's the alliance who trew the first stone.
as it stands, the goblin story starts with kezan exploding, u get on a ship to save your life, that ship ends up between a naval battle of horde vs alliance and get's blown to hell in the crossfire, and after you wake up in the islands, the humans of the alliance think the goblins are there to aid the horde and atack first.
of course that basic plot could change, but for now that's how things are.
same thing with the worgen, in their case is the horde who trows the first stone, with the forsaken atackign the worgen, though in their case it may be a bit more justified, after all the forsaken have been at a sort of war with the worgen for years, if they see a full nation of worgen their first reaction would be to make sure they don't pose a threat (of course the best course of action would be to investigate if these worgen are as savage as the other ones, but what the heck, the humans on the lost isles didn't investigated if the goblins were aiding the horde or not, they atacked anyways too)
and I keep wondering who's gonna be the leader of the goblins........
hopefully not another Loth'emar theron (blood-elf nonexistant leader)
Post by
Adamsm
and I keep wondering who's gonna be the leader of the goblins........As long as it's better then the orginal Trade Prince as he sold out his Cartel to the slavers(which still hasn't been revealed if it's an "Alliance Race" or "Horde race" thing; aka Humans/Orcs slave rings that exist out there; Crimson Ring/Defias and the rest.
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240135
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Post by
Rankkor
speaking of leaders, I do hope blizz learns the lesson and updates the models for all racial leaders.
is a bit sad that almost all leaders have the same generic models players have access to, I mean any player who wishes to be magni's twin can do so (exept the armor).
few leaders have true unique models, such as sylvannas, or Velen.
I for one want to see thrall's doomhammer updated to what it really should look like, and tyrande to have her silver armor and tiger back, or maybe the blood-elven leader to look more like a king rather than a rock-singer with a bad streak, and the gnome king to look less like riped off from the revenge of the nerds.
seriously, leaders are suposed to be people above the rank and file, thus they should really look like nothing anyone should achieve.
think if the blood-elves had a leader that looks like alextrazsa's humanoid model.
having leaders with generic models is a no no.........
Post by
Rankkor
GOOD NEWS HOOOOOOOOOORDE.
it seems that mister garrosh (I utterly refuse to call him warchief, if garrosh desires to I can call him warbarbie) wont' kill cairne on this expantion :D
wheter cairne remains the leader of the tauren or not remains to be seen, maybe his son will be the new leader of the tauren, but good'ol cairne WILL NOT DIE!.
just check out this
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/wowwiki/images/6/67/Thrall_%26_Cairne_saving_babies.jpg
it's a pic of thrall and cairne saving horde children from an earthquake, :D that's what it means to be a true savior, :P
aparently after digging up some info, the reason they placed garrosh as leader of the horde, is because thrall won't be sitting on a chair in this expantion, nor will he be stuck in a raid with malfurion, thrall is gonna be a major player wiht whom we will do many quests togheter, thrall will be a huge questgiver now, and cairne will be right there with him to aid too.
this info on cairne form his article on wowwiki:
During the Story & Lore panel of BlizzCon 2009 an artwork of Cairne and Thrall rescuing babies is shown, Chris Metzen described it as: "so bad ass".
aparently our beloved thrall and cairne won't be sitting on a chair like varian, or sylvanas or tyrande or loth'remar.
no no no no, they will have a MAJOR impact on this expantion, more so than any other leader of the game.
(I like this part better, because in all honesty, if thrall leaves the horde in the hands of garrosh, only to be stuck up in an instance, that's not the fate thrall deserves)
Post by
Skreeran
Got a response, but gotta go to school first. Will reply there...
Post by
Skreeran
Alright, finally got to school.
Anyway... That picture alone doesn't mean Cairne can't die. He and Thrall could be savin' babies right after the Cataclysm and then Thrall leaves for the world tree and Garrosh kills Cairne.
Just because Cairne is badass doesn't mean Garrosh can't whup him: See
The Worf effect
and
The Sacrificial Lion
.
Post by
Rankkor
aww bro' let a man dream, I'm allready angry enough to have mister garrosh as the new leader (I gotta come up with a proper nickname for him, I still refuse to call him warchief)
at the very least I want thrall OUTSIDE of the worldtree raid, doing something other than sitting in a dungeon 24/7.
and I want poor cairne to live, he was a truly awesome character in warcraft III, in wow he has had a really low involvement, and it would really be a shame that he dies without doing nothing significant.
much worst would be if he dies executed by garrosh :S
(and BTW, if u look at the pic, see thrall's doomhammer?, WHY doesn't it look like that in-game? come on blizz, hotfixing that little mistake isn't so hard)
Post by
v3rgil
wait..
Cairn is REALLY dying in the new expansion? (oh god i hope not T_T one of the best leaders evah)
Post by
Adamsm
wait..
Cairn is REALLY dying in the new expansion? (oh god i hope not T_T)
It still isn't confirmed that he's going to die or not.
Post by
451455
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Post by
Skreeran
I belive the only reason the rumor of Cairne dying exists is because Baine was removed from the game. Hope I brought some light on the subject.
And that picture of Cairne and Thrall saving babys will most likley not happen in WoW, and they only made it for fun. Why? There is a jet in the upper-left hand corner of the picture...While I agree with you, I don't see the jet... >.>
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64424
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Post by
Adamsm
Or 3: Cairne, being the 'oldest' Tauren, is off with Thrall and Malfurion fighting against the Elemental Lords, and Baine is the place holder till that is finished.
Post by
Adamsm
Also:
It was also officially released that Cataclysm is being released around December, 2012.I lol'ed; Dec 2012 is when our world is suppose to end, so Cataclysm, which is going to tear apart Azeroth..... man Blizzard has a weird sense of Humour.
Post by
Skreeran
http://blue.mmo-champion.com/29/20140809141-why-garrosh.html
^^Gives me some hope that Blizzard still knows what they're doing. I sure hope they do, I love the Horde so much... :(
Post by
HiVolt
It helps to calm my nerves about it. Maybe Thrall won't be a Betrayer after all... the story better be pretty goddamn good though.
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