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DW Frost DPS - Blowing Up the Competition One Obliterate At A Time
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Post by
Eleazer
First off Congrats on the upgrade. That is one sweet upgrade for a belt. Don't put hit rating in those, put strength.
You are way over the expertise cap, I would look at replacing one of your heavy expertise - probably the helm or the trinket. You also are pretty low in terms of Armor pen, but have enough haste and hit to make speccing into BCB viable. I would trade out that Haste Trinket for one with Armor penetration.
Post by
Ataelos
I don't have a haste trinket, and yeah, I know I'm way over expertise, I was sitting at 24/22 last night till I got that belt and that shot me up. I'd love to get rid of the trinket but that would drop me under the cap, see my dilemma? I also can't spec into BCB currently because the tanks in my guild don't throw out enough threat for me not to pull off of them. It sucks.
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Eleazer
I meant the expertise trinket or swap for a better helm with more armor penetration.
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Eleazer
Unholy for the speed or blood are perfect for leveling unless you pull too many or need to take down an elite
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Post by
xevioso
OK guys,
I have been blood dps for a while now and have been able to pull around 2.5k to 3ksteady dps pretty easy. After talking to friends and reading a lot about the DW frost builds I decided to try it. Well It hasn’t worked out very well. I am doing only around 1700k dps now, Using this rotation.
Basic Rotation
IT/PS/OB/BS/BS/FS - RP dump
OB/OB/OB/FS - RP Dump
I believe the build is correct and the rotation is right. Am I not geared enough to have this build?
My armory:
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Rivendare&n=Nitroll
Thanks
You're a bit low on expertise, and unbuffed crit (aim for 27% unbuffed for frost dw). And ofc your weapons can be upgraded..
Save your KM procs for HB, FS has high crit already.
Blood is by far the best dps spec for lower gear. Both frost dw and unholy/unholy dw is more gear dependant.
Post by
Rankkor
I seek some sort of feedback on my Dk build.
this is my talent spec
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#jMZG0exAbcoc0chzAofM0hxc:akpVmM
and my gear
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Duskwood&n=Derah
Pay no attenttion to my blood spec or my 2hander weapon.
those are for when I wanna solo stuff up, or do my quests, my weapons for DW frost DPS are the tankard o terror, and the argent tournament mace Grimhorn crusher.
my weapon runes are FC on main hand, and RI on offhand.
my rotation consists on infecting (IT+PS) then obli+BS+BS+FS till empty of Runic power.
after that it's a simple rotation, keeping Pestilence, 2 oblis, and 1 BS each round, making priority for HB when the procs are up (rime or KM or both)
I'd like to have some feedback on how good/bad my DK is built.
(yhea know the helmet is a pvp helmet, it's just a placeholder while I get a real PVE one, same goes for the shoulders, I'm workign on it)
what sugestions do you have for me? any improvements? any critics? (keep'em constructive, point the flaws, and how to correct said flaw)
Post by
Eleazer
@Nitro - your gear just isn't good period. Your dps numbers is that raid dps or heroic dps? If they are both of those, than your numbers based on your gear and extremely low expertise is approximately correct. You could do more with more practice, and the remembrance that there is no solid rotation, but a priority based one.
@xevioso - Never save KM for Rime. Save Rime For KM. Never save KM for Rime. Save Rime for KM
@rankorr - Unbreakable armor and Merciless combat are a must have - It's not really an option. Look at the first page for the top two builds. Stick with them. Your gear is really in need of some work, and you should only use pestilence when your diseases are on their last 2-3 ticks. Using it before then will gimp your dps.
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Rankkor
ok, merciless combat and UA are 3 talent points, what should I sacrifice to get it?
my guess would be subversion, but what else should I kick?
(also, the 10% strenght of UA is really worth it?)
(I know my gear needs some work, I just got frustrated at the endless amount of nerfs DK's suffered from 3.0.2 all the way to 3.1 so I made a shammy, however, after 3.2.2 I've return to my roots and am slowly upgrading my stuff, won't be a problem once triumph emblems kick in)
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Eleazer
@rankorr - I haven't played my dk in weeks due to frustration from the changes. Deathchill is a strictly pvp talent. Your decision is subversion or BcB. I don't think you are doing enough dps to make Subversion necessary, However you don't have the gear to make BcB much better. Your best bet is go 3/53/15. Taking the points out of subversion and death chill and putting them in Merc Combat and UA with a full 3 points in subversion.
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Eleazer
I am trolling along with over 20k HK's. I am resto pve so I can do instances faster, and feral pvp because it rocks. I am not a big fan of caster's so I haven't played the boomkin. I am lvl 74 and have given up on ever winning EoTS before I get to 80 and my guild starts doing premades on them. I have been leveling through bg's as often as possible. As I get higher the skill required to play is bordering on insane.All the form shifting and learning which finishers to use and when is crazy. However, when I am rolling on all cylinders. Guys in the bg laugh as I rip through, stun, cc, heal right through a large group of horde. Generally speaking I can wipe out a group of 5 if they are within two levels of me as long as they don't focus fire me down, if one guy is on me, I can wipe out most of their group.
Locks and shadow priest cause me an immense amount of trouble, something I never had trouble with on my dk. That immolate/conflag will two shot me ever time. I get hit for 3-6k every time.
I use my dk as my tank now, and pve with him, but my pvp guy is my druid
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Eleazer
I'm wondering how this
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#jfV0VZG0exNbczf0cuzAoc
would fare, any thoughts? (bad with hyperlinks here, forgive me!) If anyone was wondering, I had in mind the lower hit rating dk's before gear makes the BcB build stand out.
Hit rating is a non-worry. 15/53/3 is better for leveling dk's once you get to raiding it falls behind especially at Ulduar level gear.
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