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Why DK's are OP and a balanced fix.
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cloudp
Spell Reflect still works if you're not protection =/.
On a similar note, DG looks cool if you are hit by it when Ice Blocked. And it can be absorbed by Grounding Totem. And I've seen Death Knights fail epicly by using Death Grip on an enemy that they just stunned with their Ghoul.
I mean, reflecting or blocking Death Grip when in arenas is much more a matter of luck. Preemptive protections against instants always mean a serious deal of luck, or maybe lack of attention by the Knight, so its not a viable counter. Its like Shadow Word:Death against polymorph or blind: Against polymorph you can time it well, and it is your merit; against blind, it means an enourmous deal of luck. I know you can forsee the atacker doing it, but its always a risk. The DK may notice you SR and wait for the buff to be gone.
(*ignores the tears out there*)
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WarSkullz
holeofart... actualy give me and argument and stop your qqing.. i cant respond to "DK who facerolls and knows nothing about other classes, or a scrub." in any logical way.but ill try! yes, i do kno about other classes! (bet you %^&*ed your pants when ya read that.) i kno warlocks very well too, and im not bad at shammen (although they are very simple lol).
this is called "Why Dk's are OP and a balanced fix."
the main thing im seeing are random people qqing and only lightrain is even making an arguement.
I'm not QQing, and when I was, dumbass, I did back it up. I clearly stated that NO class should be able to have the survivability of a tank, the dps of a retadin, and the heals of a priest.
No, I didn't !@#$ my pants.
The simple fact of you saying a huge wall of text that sums up about nothing just shows how much of a scrub you are. You're defending a class that shouldn't be able to do what it does. Ret paladins are getting re-worked too, did you know that? Did you ALSO know, that they aren't #$%^&ing 24/7 about it? And they AGREE that their burst is too high? So why the hell can't you million DKs just shut up and face the facts? Your class is BROKEN compared to everyone else's. It needs to be re-worked.
Saying otherwise just shows your inferiority and your childishness. Me having to lay it out in front of your nose just proves my point.
Seriously, I wrote all of that for
deaf ears
... Blind eyes.
People like you irratate me.
Haha, i was reading this thread, when i stumbled on your post, and found it really funny.
First, I admit we can dps like a Paladin, but heal like a priest? i didn't know dks could cast flash of light, etc, to heal ourselves back to full hp. You could say we have death strike, but, we don't exactly heal ourselves for 10k or back up full. and we need diseases on the enemy which could easily be cleansed. Sure we can sac our pet, but i didnt know our death pact and ghoul summoning is instant after we do it. It gives more power to survival, but there are tons of classes with survival.
Seriously, i don't own a DK, but i always see a way through EVERYTHING. Just because you don't see people QQ'ing about Paladin's doesn't mean it doesn't exist in this world, I'm sure there's tons of people discussing about it right now on their servers.
About COI, Sure i mean, a DK can cast chains of ice to kite people, but while hes COI'ing, how is he going to attack with limited runes? and besides, many people can get away from it, it has happened, just not to you. being chained means you can't attack (melee wise), if it also means a dk can't attack (or attack you slowly with icy touch which also limits COI more and more)
To sum it up, your basically listing all of the dk's op traits, but maybe you should list some of the pallies and druids? frost mages?
Please HoleofArt, don't target people directly, i mean, your getting yourself worked up because of a game, which makes me wanna /facepalm you if i knew you irl. Your trying to show how, the world revolves around you, and that your the only one that's right in this world. If there are more people defending you then attacking you, I'd pay you a million bucks.
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Lightrain
I dont think that DKs are that OP thought they have death grip and chains of ice=not a good day to be a hunter,the once who i HATE is Paladins,bubble heal up and good survivability and right now hunter can do much damage but have crap survivability.ironic that the we have a spec called survival.And of course the lovely rogues,how many stuns do they have?
This isn't a rogue discussion. (3 "stuns" and 2 CC's btw)
Make a QQ thread of your own, or add to the other one already started.
Paladins should be easy for huntards. CC paladin, kill his partner.... Problem solved.
Bubble is twice as long as other cooldowns, and you fail if you sit around waiting for it to wear off.
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Lightrain
i know this isnt my aeguement but you seem to not realise hunters have 1 cc with a 30 sec cd. pally just trinks the first 1 and rapes your ass.
You just failed so many times over....
Yes, it's hard to kill a paladin as a hunter, if he's a good paladin, but what you posted is not the reason.
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meowliekacat
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/6427/coi.jpg
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cloudp
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/6427/coi.jpg
This.
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mgman640
First, I admit we can dps like a Paladin, but heal like a priest? i didn't know dks could cast flash of light
I didn't know Priests could either.
i didn't either....good to know LOL
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/6427/coi.jpg
This. Epic win =D
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WarSkullz
hey hey, i don't really remember what priests, use, but to say, Dks cant heal themselves like a ret pally. All they gotta do is bubble and heal.
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Lightrain
You do realize that like 2 teams in the world have 3k rating right? And that is in 3v3. Locks and shamans are fine in 3v3.
Classes change dramatically throughout patches, what you put up was a totally moot argument. It takes a pro player probably 2 months to master another class... You cant possibly tell me that in 2 years time, theoretically nothing has changed in terms of patches, DK will rise to the number 1 spot. Seriously, SK-100 isn't the only proof, I can show you the 2v2, 3v3 and 5v5 list too, and even from other sites.
I don't get how you can argue against solid statistics, certain stats can lie, but percentages in top brackets cant lie, because you cant fake these stats.
I know that two teams have reached 3k rating in 3v3.
And I know statistics don't lie... I'm not trying to say that you are wrong.. I'm just saying that the stats only say that dks are the 3rd most represented class in sk-100.. that doesn't say that they aren't OP.
A class that has been around for what, 6 months, is 3rd on the most represented class in WoW..... I'ld say that's pretty damn OP. Give it another season and they might be higher. With the nerfs, it might balance them out a little, but we'll see.
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