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Most difficult heroic?
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Post by
siscorskiy
About a week ago I tanked H Drak theron and I have to say I was not impressed, we wiped maybe once.easy peezy. And that was my first heroic....ever.
But a few days ago I tanked H Utgarde and, wow, we wiped 1,2,3... my gear was almost broken. Our healer wasnt exactly the best ( Pally, not to sure about spec/gear).The DPS seemed to be good as I was bottom of the list for once. From what ive heard UK is one of the easier heroics. So, is it?
Post by
Shiverlynn
Utgarde Keep? It
is
easy. Really. And as a Paladin, I heal through it easily. Really.
If it was Pinnacle, then that's another matter. The first two bosses are easy, but the gauntlet can be really difficult. I'm going to be scoffed at but yes, when you don't have the gear it can be difficult.
Heroic Drak'tharon is also an easy one except for King Dred who can hit hard.
And I think the hardest heroic is Occulus. Lots of magic, your armor is useless, lots of aoe, lots of retard checks.
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Post by
OniManji
Either UP or HoL... but you'll get used to them after a couple of runs... as with anything else really :P
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Post by
Foopeemoa
- People think Occulus is hard because a lot of the fights are idiot-checks.
- People think HoL is hard because usually groups are heavy on melee dps due to the axe, and the trash is melee-unfriendly. The last fight is also hard for non-aoe healers.
- People think OK is hard because Insanity usually requires people to do more than faceroll buttons to kill the healer in their group, and Jedoga requires dps to pay attention and switch targets quickly.
- People think HoS is hard due to the event, but that is totally tank-dependent, so hope that your tank is good.
- People think AN is hard because a lot don't know the mechanics of the fights, or the group doesn't have a poison cleanser.
- People think UP is hard because there is a never-ending supply of undergeared tanks trying to get the sword, and because a lot of people don't move away from the whirlwind.
None of the heroics are that difficult if you have 5 people who are paying attention and either willing to listen or already understand the fight mechanics. Some can be difficult, depending on group makeup, a lot are difficult if your tank is on the low-end of the gear spectrum, and some are more difficult with a specific type of healer.
None are anywhere near how H MgT was when it first came out.
Post by
Divisor
/agree with Foopeemoa
With one exception. I did Oculus only twice in my life. Once to get the achievement for heroic, once when it was daily for the achievements Proof of Demise and Timear Foresees. Not because it's a hard instance and a n00b-check. Because it's not. Once you understand the mechanics, it's easy. But I refuse to run it because it mocks me. I do heroics, 10 man raids, 25 man raids, gather gear, buy enchants, gems, and get my gear in the best condition. And what ? You can fight Ley-Guardian Eregos while your character is naked. Why the hell am I getting gear then ? To be mocked by a bad-designed end-boss ? Let my character fight it, and I'll run it every day. Not a dumb drake.
So this is my "hard" instance, not actually for being hard, but because I just hate it. And I hate the developer who got the idea. I hope he has nightmares with dragons.
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Post by
marklartank
AN is a pain because of the poison spitting spiders on the last fight if your group's dps is low.
i have real problems with rage during both the UP gauntlet and the HoS event. both would be fairly easy otherwise.
other than that, there isn't really an overly difficult heroic - it's almost disappointing.
Post by
Dralas
The hardest heroics for me is OC and HoS. OC I just don't like because like others stated above, its an idiot check and armor is almost useless at times, and lets face it, were always gonna have at least 1 idiot in our group no matter what. HoS the worst part really is the event to protect the dwarf. Its not that they hit hard, its that they add up fast if your dps is only subpar, and eventually some will slip by, you'll hit your "oh @#$!" button too early, and end up dying soon.
Post by
Shadda
Most difficult for me has always been H Old Kingdom. And only the one room right before herald. I've gone in there with the best players in the best gear I know, but there's so many pats and so many packs so close together, somehow some one always pulls at least one extra group (and those bastards hit HARD).
I hate that room. Just glad I finally got my bracers off the herald, and completed all the achievements. Now I never have to go back.
Post by
kennybob
Hands down Oc. The spell damage mixed with the AoE power needed for some pulls can be hard. UP is a close follower though with that gauntlet. But hey, its stuff like that, that makes the game fun.
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Post by
Fakir
Either UP or HoL... but you'll get used to them after a couple of runs... as with anything else really :P
Hrmmm... just did both of those today for the first time. Not with IMBA groups - not at all. We wiped a few times but they were quite manageable.
And to OP: Yes, UK is one of the easier ones.
Oh, yea, OK is quite hard. We only managed 2 bosses late one night before we split and went to bed. Second boss took us quite a few tries before we got the tactics right.
Heroic AN is easy imo. Last boss is a bit tricky, yes, if you don't avoid his stomps (or whatever they are called) butother than that it's quite fast and easy.
I never did heroic Oculus. I heard last boss is kind hard there. Looking forward to trying it some day.
Post by
Shiverlynn
The HoS event additionally sucks due to rage/T-Clap CDs... what I'd give for Consecration there.
I'm with you... It's the only instance and the only place where I wish I were a pally/DK.
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Post by
Shaqfu
i have real problems with rage during both the UP gauntlet and the HoS event. both would be fairly easy otherwise.
These aren't nearly as bad as tanking the Living side of Gothik. I just let the Rets, DKs, and Hunter pets tank it while I /nap.
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