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Why even play a Rogue for PVE
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Post by
lolp
Been playing a rogue for a long time, and since ive hit 80 a good while back ive got the best gear i could get without serving time Naxx or Eye, i have about 4 epics and rest blues all enchanted socketed and whatever, but why does rogue damage not remotely match that of any other class of smiliar or even worse gear no matter what spec i go.
I know there has been a blue post about rogue pve damage and others qqing about it, but i thought today why am i even playing a rogue when i could just level my DK or another character and do double the damage, even in isntances where threre's virtually no aoe and alot is single target where rogues are supposed to excel and the shammy that is typing in party while attacking is doing more dmg.
I just think blizzard knew from the get go it would be a problem, i think thats why they put the pathetic fan of knives skill in that costs way to much energy for all the dmg it does just so rogues would feel special that they had a useless aoe, apart from soloing the jenkins achievement that is, why waste the energy.
Heck maybe they'll fix it in the next 7-8 months since all blizz seem to do is change and add things to the game i dont care about and im sure others have the same feeling.
Rant / QQ ends
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Post by
lolp
I didnt say instances have no aoe situations, i was just using that as an example on the fact that a fair few instances have only have 2-4 mobs per pull if even, and if its a 2 or 3 mob pull fan of knives is a waste comparing the damage you could do with your normal moves. I wouldn't go as far as saying its going to keep up with mages aoe when an aoe situation came up in an instance, because as i said the energy it costs.
Unfortuantly im one of those people who's character(s) don't seem to get recorded onto the Armory from which a GM simply said was a "bug" but i have the swords
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44187
and
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44250
just under 3k atk power and 27/28 % to crit, 10 expertise, with the spec im going to go back to mostly because i like it:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fhe0oxZ0xVZxdfdhhzdAzVco
Now im not comparing this to ppl that have better gear than me, obviously their gona do more dmg, im saying on other classes that have e.g. who have the odd quest blue and rest greens that boom ahead or very near to me on dmg.
PS btw to anyone reading this im talking about pve not pvp, god knows rogues need nothing done with their "lol 3 shot" they have in bgs and im also one of those ppl who thinks the fun got violently ripped outa pvp when resilience was born, also arenas for being incredibly laggy and full of ppl who will do anything just to get a win, doesn't sound like fun to me.
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Post by
KidB
Just because you can't compete doesn't mean rogues are broken™.
Post by
lolp
I was more aiming this at 5man normal/heroic, ive been to naxx a few times and lost rolls on everything, the only time i get some decent dmg output is in 25man with every other classes buffs on me but its not gona get me near top 5 dps, since yea there wll be ppl with better gear. I personally dont like daggers anymore since i went swords, being mutilate build and waiting for 60 energy to come back to do it again doesn't appeal to me, and being forced to spec one thing to do anything decent doesn't either, at least PreBC and in PreWotlk any spec was viable to do decent dps obviously more than others.
Rogues in 5mans are like the warlocks of the old days when you took them if no one else was available, personal experience (like today) along with otheres in my guild, rogues are supposed to be one of the best single target dps, well they where. I don't raid full time anyway like my guild but on a boss rogues in my guild fully kitted out are not top dps or 2nd or 3rd, a mage or a fury warrior are top.
And kidb if your fully epic any class will do good dps, your probably a typical person who thinks their better than everyone else just cause they spend hours upon hours in one instance, making that general impression from your arrogant sounding comment, Rogue pve damage is a recognised problem in wotlk.
Post by
KidB
Are you truly whining about not being able to top charts without good gear? Really? Are you saying you should be beating better geared people?
Really?
Rogues being slightly under is a recognized problem. However, inject a bit of good gear and some skill into the mix, you'll find yourself doing fine.
Bottom line: This isn't BC anymore. You can't stack hit and keep up slice and dice anymore to be leet-dps. Get better gear, practice a lot. If you can't, reroll or quit whining.
And kidb if your fully epic any class will do good dps, your probably a typical person who thinks their better than everyone else just cause they spend hours upon hours in one instance, making that general impression from your arrogant sounding comment, Rogue pve damage is a recognised problem in wotlk.
I tl;dr'd actually, but I have to address this remark. I'm doing good because I worked my ass off to get good gear, and have bothered to learn my class thoroughly. There is no compensation for bad gear and skill anymore. If you're clueless and have bad gear, of course you'll flop.
Post by
lolp
No and i don't see how you got those impressions from what i said the only bit of the post that was remotely aimed at you was the last paragraph when i said your name, when i was talking about being in top of dps i was replying to what frost1234 said, read the replies first.
I don't care if im first second third or forth, i care about ppl with inferior gear than me being able to output same or more damage as this greatly affects how wanted a class is in a group, more people are catching on that rogues arn't too great compared to other classes, here an example of many you can find on the subject:
http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/14697492760-rogues-why-i-don-t-bring-them-pve-post.html
Practice is not exactly gona make you press them buttons any harder to make more damage, ok you might press evis that milisecond faster or alter your rotation to pressing onemore button, in pve you just need to be not completly stupid. only thing that would take practice and learning is other classes for the likes of pvp.
"There is no compensation for bad gear and skill anymore."
I don't think u've grasped the concept of why i made this rant in the first place
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