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Post by
mazhop
My opinion and hopefully others will suggest too.
I would look at getting two
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44187
this will increase your hit. You can then enchant for hit or AGI. Also, it's been mentioned before, but SV gems for AGI.
If you have a LW, look for him to craft,
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=43131#comments
, these, like the cobalt slicers (were) are really a great item lvl. Read up them and you'll see why.
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Post by
cms2k
You may want to consider review
this
forum topic.
Pay particular attention to the posts mentioning "Focused Aim" talent points. I was quite surprised to see the potential "adverse effect" of the focused aim talent.
Post by
izuul
Well the general consensus right now is that Focused Aim is a bad way to get your hit rating for two reasons.
1) It doesn't help your pet's hit rating while hit rating from your gear will, and
2) It lowers your crit rating fairly substantially. A ballpark figure would be ~1.5% (i believe), but If you want more detailed information go over to Elitist Jerks and read about it.
You also need Aimed Shot, and another point in Go for the Throat would help alot as well.
So in accordance with that, i would highly recommend trying to get the 263 hit rating through gear and spending those two talent points on Aimed Shot and 2/2 GftT.
The belt you are planning on getting will definitely help. Your gauntlets would also be a good place to look for an upgrade.
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=37043
,
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=37886
or
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=39194
if you have ~1000g to spend on AH are all quick solutions.
Post by
Argg0
2/2 GftT is overkill, specially on a SV hands. 1/2 is enough. Don't listen to them.
Aimed shot is not really necessary. Multi Shot can be used for the same damage (for a lil more mana and no debuff) freeing up a talent point.
Dragonhawk is a bad pet. If you really want a Cunning, go with Wind Serpent. But the best pure DPS pet is Raptor (you can find them on lvl 80 on Heroic DTK).
Scatter Shot isn't worth it, unless you are PvPing.
Focused Aim is indeed a bad talent. Skip it. Aim for 7% hit from gear if your raid has Draeneis (8% if not).
Sniper Training isn't really reliable. Fights where you can actually use it are rare... and it may put you out of range of Auras (including Heroic Presence) and Totems.
The T7 Gloves are a better improvement than the belt. For Belt, the
one from UP is really nice
.
Post by
izuul
I could easily be wrong, but i thought i saw some math that showed you needed 50%+ crit before 2/2 GftT was unnecessary.
I still stand by the recommendation of Aimed Shot though. Multi is less mana efficient on bosses or any single target pull, and can hit unintended targets.
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izuul
Here is the quote from leth regarding GftT. It's on the 4th page of the big Survival Specs thread.
You should take 2/2 Go for the Throat if your crit chance is ever not at about 55% (including TNT, Survival Instincts, etc. averaged in).
That is what i was basing my remarks on, but it's possible something has changed.
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Post by
Argg0
6/14/51
is my personal favorite.
With my gear and on, picking up 2/2 GftT over 1/2 gives me only 2 more dps (using the spreadsheet, just for comparison, 1/2 over 0/2 increases my dps by 303.37). After a lil bit of gear, the upgrade is so small that it is not worth it.
I know it could pick 2/3 EW for saving one point, but I just don't like Sniper Training, it's not viable in my opinion, being far from boss is not usually possible and sometimes when it is may cost some buffs and even put you out of range of healers/boss.
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