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There are some difficult heroics, like AN and OK. The problem isn't in difficult heroics, the problem is there's no reason to do heroic AN/OK when you can get the same gear/emblems out of any easy heroic. The emblem out of UK is the same out of OK.
Even if they released a heroic that was the most difficult content in the game, nobody would run it. Just like nobody runs OK or Occ now
/totally agree
Was thinking of writing this while reading other posts. People keep whining about easy heroics. Why when I enter LFM and browse the heroics and ppl LFG there, the only ones I always see are Nexus, VH, UK. Heroics like Oculus, UP, OK and even DTK are usually empty. If you want a challenging heroic - go pug one of those.
But again - at the end of the day, NOONE WANTS CHALLENGE. every1 wants some fast and easy emblems. This was the problem in TBC as well - people would rather go for fast badges in SP, UB, Mech, and abandon Arca, Shadow Labs, Sethekk, Shattered Halls and Crypts
A couple of comments. First I find it interesting that there seems to a consensus that AN is hard. For whatever reason its never given the groups I've run it with much trouble. Which fight or fights do people think make this a tough heroic and why?
As for no one running the perceived "hard" heroics, generally we select instances based on drops. My guild has a bunch of folks alt DKs who recently dinged 80. We generally end up pugging in a couple of outsiders and running whatever instance drops gear they need. Often these are the instances mentioned as avoided. Equally often we go somewhere else. I'm not sure which drop they want, but all these DKs always want to go to OK. The exception is VH not because its easy (although it is), but because its so convenient. Since its right in Dalaran, getting people to fill out a 5 man for VH usually takes 2 minutes.
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Regarding AN heroic:
the trash on the first boss can sometimes be challenging for some groups (50% of groups that I've been with); and Anub'Arak requires the group to have some decent gear or tank won't survive Pound, if the group's dps isn't enough - you get overwhelmed with poison dealing adds and wipe.
Tried this arguement,
They arent pugged because they arent fun.
Nothing to do with them being tricky at all. Nope. Just not fun.
Does anyone find fun in UK, Nexus, VH or Gundrak (the most pugable heroics on my server)? Having basic tank'n'spank fights requiring no brain activity (except for Kelistrasza. u actually need brains to press 'jump' every couple of seconds, got proved in yesterday's run). They are so damn fun. lol.
Hence my sarcastic comment.
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As I said somewhere, it seems clear to me the devs in charge of difficulty were given clear instructions to make ALL content fairly easy, heroic included. There is no other way to explain the 180-degree turn from the approach to BC heroics.
I'm not sure exactly what your point with this thread is. Nor did I read the middle 2 pages because, oh yeah, it's a bunch of drivel.
However, I did notice Deficineiron mentioning he is a DPS shammy.
Hmmm.... Roll a druid. Go tank, heal, and do some feral dps/OT'ing.
You are complaining about being a bored dps while being the biggest face rolling dps class out there. Seriously.....
Try out some harder classes. I'm sure because you've seen all the content now, you will be pretty bored reguardless of the class you are playing, but at least you will be worried about an actual "rotation" or better "priority list" style of dps. You will also learn what tanking is about, and probably have a bunch of dps drop out of groups on you because you lack the desire to save their digital lives. I'm not even going to get into stacking HoT's on a whole group of people while keeping the tank alive(which is painfully difficult if you are undergeared).
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In the real world challenge is a relative term so I get it. But to imply that for a challenge, one must, disable some aspect of their ability to be challenged is just nonsense. The best athletes are challenged not because the bar was dropped... but because it was raised...
I'm sorry, but I had to LoL here. This is a game after all.
Difficulty in WoW is not the content, although it is hard if you are new to the game.
Arena is where the difficulty is bumped.
You can not in any way face roll in arena. It's not possible. If you get to a 1900-2200+ rating, then you have my props as being an excelent WoW player.
If you down Kel and come here to QQ about the difficulty, you have no simpathy from me about playing a faceroll class with minor duties in raid. You are being carried by skilled players that make the fight a face roll for you.
A few entertaining fights-
Tanking Heigan the Unclean is harder than it looks.
Tanking Skadi. Nuff said, unless you are a DK ofc. DnD is too easy to spam.
Healing Loken with a group that doesn't run fast enough.
I'll be honest, if you are a DPS, if you aren't a feral druid or Affl lock(hunger rogues are a bit tough too), you really should go do arena for difficulty.
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