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Check out this "avoidance" pvp ret spec :P
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Distruggiuova
u lose 6% damage reduction from every player with improved righteous fury, basically 10% mana and some damage for a 10% damage reduction that works only with a few classes (melee) and only if they arent attacking u from behind and if u arent stunned...
nice attempt but the problem is that u give up talents that boost both ur damage and defense against every class for 2 talents that are really useful only in very particular situations
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sZ0ebGfZVfMtbfkfMsgzuo
this is the build i'm using at moment, 2points in divine guardian can be put in 2handed-spec for 4% more damage, but i think the 30% damage reduction is usefull in arena cause when u bubble the opposite team will more than likely focus fire someone else and this help them a lot
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Distruggiuova
PLEASE DO NOT GET IMPROVED RET AURA
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sZ0ebVcZVfMtrhufMsgzuo
This is the standard PvP build. The 1 in RV is used as dispel bait
agree with the imp ret aura for the same reason i wrote above, too situational to be better then other all around talents
as for ur build eye for an eye is situational as well but has his flavour so it's a personal choice but the big nono in ur build is that in pvp situation crusade will ALWAYS outperform 2handed spec, it's the same 6% more damage but it works on 2more spells, exorcism and holy wrath so why take less when u can have more? :P
edit: 5points in toughness is not really worth it, with imp hand of freedom u shouldnt have lot of problems with snares and 6% damage reduction with 30% anti dispel is better imho
edit2: oh and 3/3 in sanctified seals is another big nono :P with 3/3 stoicism and 2/3 sanct seals u'll have a 96% dispel resistance but ur seal will still be a good target for that purge so it's a good defense for ur others buffs.
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PureGold
First of all...Isn't Righteous fury like...an essential pvp talent?
Second of all...what gear would you wear with this? How would a small percent of dodge even matter? If you want to avoidance pvp just roll a prot pally in t7.5 you will faceroll them in pvp with a single Avenger's Shield.
Third...I don't like the spec, wastes points in dodge, not getting better things like Imp RF.
Edit: ...if anyone says they are just going to dispell RF, think of this...if they are wasting time purging something like that, you are already in their face dealing 10k damage.
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PureGold
agree with the imp ret aura for the same reason i wrote above, too situational to be better then other all around talents.
Imp. ret is more situational than 5% dodge and 5% parry (which won't do anything since any sane melee will be behind you)?
With Eye for an Eye and Imp ret with over 900 unbuffed spell damage in my ret pvp gear, I have seen rogues take themselves down incredibly fast.
Once again: avoidance PvP is not plausible. You're much better going with a cookie cutter spec.
Again..my suggestion of just rolling in fully geared prot.
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slasher0161
agree with the imp ret aura for the same reason i wrote above, too situational to be better then other all around talents.
Imp. ret is more situational than 5% dodge and 5% parry (which won't do anything since any sane melee will be behind you)?
With Eye for an Eye and Imp ret with over 900 unbuffed spell damage in my ret pvp gear, I have seen rogues take themselves down incredibly fast.
Once again: avoidance PvP is not plausible. You're much better going with a cookie cutter spec.
Again..my suggestion of just rolling in fully geared prot.
Motivator :P na rolling as a fully gear prot pally works till a mage sneaks up behind you and Pew pews (yes thats right) you before you realise it (although that is situational too)
Solution: Carry a pocket healer :)
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PureGold
agree with the imp ret aura for the same reason i wrote above, too situational to be better then other all around talents.
Imp. ret is more situational than 5% dodge and 5% parry (which won't do anything since any sane melee will be behind you)?
With Eye for an Eye and Imp ret with over 900 unbuffed spell damage in my ret pvp gear, I have seen rogues take themselves down incredibly fast.
Once again: avoidance PvP is not plausible. You're much better going with a cookie cutter spec.
Again..my suggestion of just rolling in fully geared prot.
Motivator :P na rolling as a fully gear prot pally works till a mage sneaks up behind you and Pew pews (yes thats right) you before you realise it (although that is situational too)
Solution: Carry a pocket healer :)
Its well known that any caster will wreck your face if you are prot...its what we deal with.
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Distruggiuova
agree with the imp ret aura for the same reason i wrote above, too situational to be better then other all around talents.
Imp. ret is more situational than 5% dodge and 5% parry (which won't do anything since any sane melee will be behind you)?
With Eye for an Eye and Imp ret with over 900 unbuffed spell damage in my ret pvp gear, I have seen rogues take themselves down incredibly fast.
Once again: avoidance PvP is not plausible. You're much better going with a cookie cutter spec.
no doubt that imp ret and eye for an eye are better then 10% melee mitigation but, as u said, while they work very well against rogues, fury warriors or enha shamans (classes that i usually dont find that hard to beat as a retri pally also without those talents) they are much less effective vs other classes and if i have to choose between those talents and 8% damage (2hand spec and crusade) i'd take the damage, anyway, expecially eye for an eye, is really up to a player preference
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Spinky
Looks....okay....on paper, but I don't think it plausible at all. No Benediction. You didn't put one point into Righteous vengeance.
No Imp. Ret aura
(which is a big damage dealer against a rogue/TG warrior). No Kings.
PLEASE DO NOT GET IMPROVED RET AURA
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sZ0ebVcZVfMtrhufMsgzuo
This is the standard PvP build. The 1 in RV is used as dispel bait
crusade>2hand spec
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