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PureGold
Kings vs Imp. Might
So, which is better for me? I am a ret pally and since I can only cast 1 of them on myself so…
I’m only concerned for myself not for a group/raid, since I am still leveling; mostly soloing or in small groups right now.
Also, Seal of Martyr vs Seal of Command
Ok, I’ve heard lots of debate on this one. I’m PVE so currently using Martyr. For leveling, which one should I be using? Since everyone says that PVE should be Martyr, is there a case when I should be using Command at all, even I dungeons?
Thx for your input.
Okay For the Kings vs IMP. Might, I haven't done the numbers but 10% strength increase might be pretty okay...
But safe bet is Might is better.
Martyr is PvE, except in fights where your damage is boosted by a lot (aka you will one shot your self)
Only THEN is command better. (even then...maybe..dying and doing 20k+ crit...or living and doing 2~3k dps...)
Command is only better in PvP because you don't get damage from yourself.
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kamodius
Kings vs Imp. Might
So, which is better for me? I am a ret pally and since I can only cast 1 of them on myself so…
I’m only concerned for myself not for a group/raid, since I am still leveling; mostly soloing or in small groups right now.
Also, Seal of Martyr vs Seal of Command
Ok, I’ve heard lots of debate on this one. I’m PVE so currently using Martyr.
For leveling, which one should I be using?
Since everyone says that PVE should be Martyr, is there a case when I should be using Command at all, even I dungeons?
Thx for your input.
Okay For the Kings vs IMP. Might, I haven't done the numbers but 10% strength increase might be pretty okay...
But safe bet is Might is better.
Martyr is PvE, except in fights where your damage is boosted by a lot (aka you will one shot your self)
Only THEN is command better. (even then...maybe..dying and doing 20k+ crit...or living and doing 2~3k dps...)
Command is only better in PvP because you don't get damage from yourself.
Sorry PG, gotta disagree. If he's asking for levelling, I used Command with the glyph, and kept damage and therefore downtime to a minimum.
When you're grouped, Martyr/Blood all the way, because you'll have a healer, but for soloing efficiency, I have to recommend BoComm.
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PureGold
I'd still use blood, but then again I'm masochistic like that, I leveled holy in BC....
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Fulgurah
I used SoComm with glyph when leveling to ensure an absolute minimum of down-time. Yes, it is true that SoB+AoW procs means you won't actually have to heal yourself much, but honestly, when killing mobs while leveling, the difference between SoB and SoComm is not so great. It's the difference between getting off 2 Judge/CS combos instead of one.
So, to each their own on this one.
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kamodius
I'd still use blood, but then again I'm masochistic like that, I leveled holy in BC....
You are a sad, strange little man.
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I'd still use blood, but then again I'm masochistic like that, I leveled holy in BC....
You are a sad, strange little man.
(Extra credit if you can identify the movie the quote came from.)
Thank you...
Grinding HellBoars was EPIC and took 3 mins to kill one.
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Nazeka
Might is good at low gear levels and for soloing/leveling, but Kings scales MUCH better with gear than Might. Don't spec into Kings, but DO get it from a group member if they have it, since most holy and prot pallies will take Kings in their build.
Actually, the other specs need the ret talents too much for kings to be beneficial compared to the 8% crit (healers) or parry/mana efficiency/use of the 96969 rotation.
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kamodius
Might is good at low gear levels and for soloing/leveling, but Kings scales MUCH better with gear than Might. Don't spec into Kings, but DO get it from a group member if they have it, since most holy and prot pallies will take Kings in their build.
Actually, the other specs need the ret talents too much for kings to be beneficial compared to the 8% crit (healers) or parry/mana efficiency/use of the 96969 rotation.
Not going to start
this
argument again, but... wrong. At 80, I had every necessary talent in ret + kings/imp. kings, and I also have kings in my prot spec. Holy's about the only spec that it's more iffy for, talent-point wise.
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frmorrison
Might is good at low gear levels and for soloing/leveling, but Kings scales MUCH better with gear than Might. Don't spec into Kings, but DO get it from a group member if they have it, since most holy and prot pallies will take Kings in their build.
You would have to have gear that doesn't exist to match Might's 687 attack power. However, Kings does give you other stats, so it isn't that much of a loss.
FYI, I use Might first in PvE and PvP.
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