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@ Mifune
Gotta keep serpent sting up the entire fight. Also, as Xan said, use aimed shot.
Your LnL rotation looks pretty good. But it is undecided the best rotation for it. The ES and SS rotation is also my favorite.
@ DaaveNE
Yes for surv Agi/Stam gems and maybe some haste/stam gems. Try for all agi enchants. Unless your not hit capped then get the couple hit enchants. But your spec must be a little off. 3/3 EW is a bit of a waste. For most people 2/3 is good enough. But then again if your crit is only 20-30% you might want 3/3.
@OP
Raptors are top atm.
I almost always go for Agi gems and chants no matter the spec. Due to the fact that it gives crit and AP. Plus it scales better with kings and other buffs.
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Azadell
I know the 2 AP>1 agi...but I'm poor...so i always gem agi or haste (unless not hit capped.)
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Argg0
2 AP is NOT > 1 Agi for Survival.
Gem for Agility.
You shouldn't gem for Haste, as it will come in loads on higher end gear.
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I need to do more testing, but I'm wary about the supposition that a Raptor is better or even equal in raid DPS to a Cat. I compared numbers between two 25-man raids, with everything being equal, raid composition, buffs, foods, flasks, gear, everything... on the same bosses the Cat still outperformed the Raptor by a noticeable margin. Not huge mind you, but enough to show the Cat as the clear winner. I think I need to do more dummy testing though and see, with no buffs or interference from me, how they do.
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http://elitistjerks.com/f74/t42519-best_possible_dps_shandaras_wotlk_spreadsheet/
/shrug
Could you elaborate a bit more on your testing? You used both pets yourself? They were both 80 and specced the same? Did they both have every raid buff, or were some of them missing? What fights did you look at? Etc.
I know that EJ says raptors are better, which is why I am dumbfounded. I looked at the overall data but more importantly two Patchwerk fights, one with Raptor and one with Cat, with almost identical fight times
(Raptor fight was not quite 2 seconds more than Cat)
. I compared Patch fights for obvious reasons, most importantly because it's a DPS check and the pets were up and on the boss 100% of the time. Yes I used both pets myself. They were both 80 and pets were talent speced the same. They were both buffed the same, not including combat buffs that proc, that may have proced different times and a different number of times during the fight. Everything for all intents and purposes was the same. Like I said though I want to do more testing... I was really expecting the Raptor to do better.
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@ Argg0
I was speaking for BM...follow the thread plz
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